Psycoprophet.8107

> @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > > Against power guardian: > > > > > > Shadowshot -> unblockable 3k damage -> dash out of range of counter-pressure > > > > > > Repeat until you win, don't even need other weapon skills. Bonus points for using the stolen 3s daze. > > > > Lmao just that easy eh, given guards a known hard counter to thieves and known to be in favor of guard when players are close to equal skill im surprised everyone has missed this easy tactic all these yrs, who woulda thought it was so easy lol. > > Man these forums are sad these days. > > Doesn't stop it being true. And whether or not the matchup is in favour of the thief or the guard, doesn't change the fact that this is the best strategy for the thief to emply. > > Thieves lose to guards when they try to stay in melee and go toe-to-toe. > > Thieves can beat power guards when they spike-and-kite, and prioritise their unblockable stuff. > > Talking about a dps power guard, not a burn-bunker. u saying it doesnt make it true :) all ur statements says is u sit there and eat repeated shodow shots till ur dead lol what are u doing in between afking, Then complain how easy a target u are?

> @"Ragnar.4257" said: > Against power guardian: > > Shadowshot -> unblockable 3k damage -> dash out of range of counter-pressure > > Repeat until you win, don't even need other weapon skills. Bonus points for using the stolen 3s daze. Lmao just that easy eh, given guards a known hard counter to thieves and known to be in favor of guard when players are close to equal skill im surprised everyone has missed this easy tactic all these yrs, who woulda thought it was so easy lol. Man these forums are sad these days.

> @"KrHome.1920" said: > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > @"KrHome.1920" said: > > > You don't beat D/P+SB thief. You build for not dying to it, while killing its teammates, as this build can reset fights for ages. > > > > I beat, srt destroy dd's all the time so _**not sure what ur on about**_, _**I catch a lot of em**_ even in wvw but in conquest lol their definitely beatable. U sound like u just don't like em peeiod and are way exaggerating their prowess. _**Weird coming from a necro**_, shouldn't u be spending ur time giving suggestions to anet on how necro's should be fairly nerfed, _**Lich auto's**_ etc etc? :) theirs a reason ur class along with guards are thee most played classes no? > In a nutshell: you fight overextending thieves. > > The rest of your posting: no sure what you are on about. I play two classes: necro (that hasn't equipped lich since 2012) and ... thief. So your whole "argumentation" (more a rant getting personal) instantly becomes pretty dumb. > > @thread-topic: > D/P+SB SA/Tr/DrD is a utility focused build. It has seen numerous nerfs in the past, because it was overperforming (jack of all trades). Duelling is not the main focus of this build. This is a decap and +1 build, that is impossible to catch unless the player is stupid. If you want to duell you can create much better thief builds for that purpose. > > The only thing you can try on that build is resetting the fight over and over again until you get the upper hand in terms of cooldowns, but like I said in my posting above: smart encounters will run builds you can not "out-cooldown". Well over extending or not most either lose the 1v1 or leave and if the leave than they haven't stopped me from what I was doing or I have made them have to change what the were doing,win win. If he resets and returns that means I got a breather as well. So what would u consider being a better outcome? Would like the thief to not be able to disengage and instead just be a easy kill in the majority of any 1v1 it takes, that sounds fair right lol.

no its not dead, its still in a good place, not great but not bad which is actually really good in the world of gw2. It can still decap effectively and with sustain slowly been lowered(hopefully that's the direction their going in) teef will be great at +1'ing again. I really hope in the future though the revert some of the ini costs on skills and nerf them in other ways as increasing the cost is just lazy and not only nerfs thief but makes it more clunky to use which should never be the goal. I believe this on every class, a good example is mesmer losing a dodge. Mesmer definitely had far to much access to evades/evade frames and definitely needed to be nerfed in that regard but instead of removing a dodge making Mirage feel clunky they should have instead nerfed some of Mirage other means of evade while leaving its access to both dodges. Before Mirage players chime in saying they were fine before lol no they definitely were not.

> @"Bardock.4718" said: > I always hated playing against those. Now I can finally play my skillfull condi herald :) Well first off I doubt u slum it on warrior if ur capable of playing such a high skill build as condi herald, I mean it's high skill Ceiling is only even closely matched by other high skill builds such as mm necro and condi teef. It was obvious warrior was going to be nerfed considering at the time of last yrs feb patch warrior only received small nerfs in the way of heavy sustain nerfs, damage nerfs and further damage nerfs due to the loss of damage on cc clown idea which was large portion of it burst given its high amount of cc skills. This all lead to warrior being so broken op a lot of players left the class and it became known as one of the weaker classes which was all a ploy by warrior players to have it left op. Even the guy behind gods of pvp site is in on it calling spellbreaker "just not very good right now" in the first sentence in the description for power splbr. Healbreaker was meta and thats blasfomy warrior having a build in meta so thats gotta be nerfed and along with it fc which effects the obviously op power splbr as well, since its so op. These devs should get a award for best....er worst dev team ever to work on a mmos balance lol.

I say simply rework the skill into a stylish 3 hit gs combo where the 3rd hit does extra damage. Have the skill function over a 2 sec cast time with the ability to move, u could also design the animation with Cantha expac in mind. This way it gives players time to react before the 3rd big hit also being in line with the idea of wanting to hard cc the enemy to increase the chances of hitting that 3rd last damaging hit. Un rooting the skill would just make gs feel more fluid.

lmao go to gods of pvp, 1st sentence in power spellbreaker is " Unfortunately warrior/spellbreaker just isn't very good in the current meta". Players who have trouble against warrior or just dislike the class be like " warriors op" lmao. Since post feb patch warrior and its specs were widely known as the now bottom tier class and then a viable build comes to light via healbreaker and in the gw2 community if a few select classes have a build thats meta its automatically op, although its fine for the other classes of the roster to have such. I would understand if healbreaker received a small nerf to its spacific build but nerfing FC also effects builds like power splbr which was already struggling. I can see why anet devs avoid the forums though as its literally 98% useless bias nonsense and 2% useful feedback.

U mean it was broken/bugged before, now it is fixed thankfully.

> @"TrollingDemigod.3041" said: > You pretty much delete anything that doesn't have high generation of boons 24/7 passively, that free fear(soo why teef have access to fear at all?) on boonless enemies is a bit broken and you can just 11111 enemy to death without even trying. Reading through all that nonsense bias was hard, u must be buds with Khome.

> @"KrHome.1920" said: > You don't beat D/P+SB thief. You build for not dying to it, while killing its teammates, as this build can reset fights for ages. I beat, srt destroy dd's all the time so not sure what ur on about, I catch a lot of em even in wvw but in conquest lol their definitely beatable. U sound like u just don't like em peeiod and are way exaggerating their prowess. Weird coming from a necro, shouldn't u be spending ur time giving suggestions to anet on how necro's should be fairly nerfed, Lich auto's etc etc? :) theirs a reason ur class along with guards are thee most played classes no?

> @"memausz.7264" said: > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > Honestly just fn balance the game and do actual passes on a reasonable time table. This whole stop support on the game balance wise cuz eod is being worked on is ridiculous. > > EoD = End of Development Seems like that's exactly what eod is. Ud think they'd want to at least attempt to get some semblance of balance between the roster before introduction the new e-spec's so they have a basis to balance them by, not the current iteration of balance which is a complete mess post feb patch as there wasn't even close to the amount of follow up needed after the aftermath that was left by such a large blanket nerf patch that treated the roster so indifferent. I donno who makes the decisions there but the lack of not only support leading up to but in hype generation for the third expac has been horrible thus far not leaving much hope for the expansion.

Lol ud think after all this time I'd be a huge one worthy of a preview BUT will probably be nothing at all lol.

Honestly just fn balance the game and do actual passes on a reasonable time table. This whole stop support on the game balance wise cuz eod is being worked on is ridiculous.

Nope, only play for pvp or wvw, pve in this game is boring asf.

Its on the table.

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > Ur last sentence perfectly shows how badly designed dh is and why it needs reworked. > > its not dh, its permeating wrath + symbolic power. U guys are right, I only meant that its extremely bad that the largest majority of dh/ burn guards damage is from passive burn procs, either those traits need changed, procs significantly reduced or burn itself needs significantly nerfed or whatever knowledgeable guard players think needs to happen if their honest lol. I haven't played guard or its specs for yrs so I can't rightly give suggestions on how to nerf it properly. That said 6th bonus of rune needs to be changed as it gives dh both invisibility and quickness to a spec that definitely should not have easy access to both.

Traits great but they really should revert the boon steal back to 3 considering the state of boon spam in game currently. Lowering boon spam is the less probable thing to happen so.

If u love teef in wvw why u wanna be zergling anyway? Lol. Do what u do best and roam or scout, and when around s blob fight pick off scraglerz on the outskirts of the fight, just make sure u have a port ready to go when focused. This is thread is like the flip side of all the zergling's flooding the forums crying to nerf thief cuz their zerg builds gets killed by thief(a roamer) while on way to their zerg. Some classes are great in zergs but bad roamers or ok at both or great roamers aka thief and Ranger but bad in zergs. If u main teef accept ur never gonna be a class wanted in zergs and thats OK cuz roamers lives matter to.

> @"Math.5123" said: > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > > being killed by traps while DH is on the other side of the map is not a problem with trapper rune. > > > > > > thats true. i wasn't talking about trapper rune. > > > > My bad, probably misunderstood if you were making another point. > > > > > @"Math.5123" said: > > > > > If you somehow managed to get tethered, you can counter it with stab, stunbreak when the pull happens or running out of range to break the tether. It does not function like magebane tether. > > > > This is true. > > > > > Just because you choose to ignore all the ways to counter a skill doesn't make it good. > > > > This is true. > > > > > It's not untrue. You can dodge the first application of Spear. It has almost a second cast time. There is no excuse to ever being hit by it. > > > > Trapper rune stealth application. > > What you fail to realize is that is a dh uses spear, he loses almost all his damage. Over 80% of the damage comes from the passive proc. Ur last sentence perfectly shows how badly designed dh is and why it needs reworked.

> @"cyberzombie.7348" said: > I'd much rather have pre-existing support traits/utilities to get buffed before considering a whole new e-spec. This 100%, full support spec doesn't suit thief's theme at all. If they did have it support It have to be in a way that fit the classes playstyles and theme, good luck with that as guaranteed if it was effective players would rally to get it nerfed to the point its unviable OR it would be unviable from the get go and never used. It be waste of a spec.

> @"RedShark.9548" said: > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said: > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said: > > > > > > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > > > > > Is bandits defense still a thing? Last time i seriously played gw2 pretty much every thief ran that kitten op skill with low cd, stunbreak, block and knockdown. > > > > > > > > > > > > Impossible to lockdown when that thing is on 16s cd > > > > > > > > > > I honestly never encounter it, and I fight a lot of thieves in WvW. Its all shadowsteps and Assassin's Signet. > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of them using it now, that or roll for ini. > > > > > > Hmm not the ones I've fought recently. It's a great skill to be honest and I wish warrior had it instead. > > > > I don't get how its great lol, I rarely see thieves using it cuz the 1 1/4 length block. If it was 3 secs or so similar to Ranger or shield block maybe. I'd way rather have bandits defense work like shield block or rangers gs skill where u can block for a duration instead of having to block right as the damage is occurring. Knock downs great but I think most thieves would give it up for a longer block duration or a block like rangers with push back, even with loss of the stunbreak. > > If it was longer then it would be absolutely busted, its already stacked with different mechanics, id rather have this on warrior shield than the 3s duration. > > Against smart player you dont even use the full 3sec. A good enemy will stop attacking or use unblockables after a single hit wull get thrown into the block. > > Bandits defense has/had (not sure if they changed it) shorter cd than warrior shield 5,while having a much more versatile use. > > Its absolutely stacked, how can you not see the use of it? I just find other blocks far more useful as far as blocking is concerned, 1 1/4 block requires far more strict timing than 3 secs and I simply said that I'd give up the stunbreak for s longer block. Weird its so stacked its never in any meta builds, like ever at least that I can remember and I've literally seen no thieves use it in pvp for yrs.

Isn't ranger short on 2h melee weapons, wouldn't a land spear not only fit a Ranger theme but also five Ranger another 2h melee/med range option?

I donno, warrior fits the theme beat for Japan's warrior for obvious reason but rangers actual animation with regards to gs,bow definitely are closer to a samurai style kit minus the animal spirits. Give Ranger a rifle and put on the samurai armor just released and thats prob closest ur gonna get animation wise. Warrior mh sw, rifle and gs5 are decent for the theme as well i guess. One thing to keep in mind is real samurai combat during wartime whether with spear or katana were a handful of basic and effective strikes that were mastered, not the fancy swordsmanship u see in the 80's movies done by Ronin. Musashi who was a kensei actually commented in his book about all the un effective fluff being added to japanese swordamanship for sports purposes. The devs definitely have it in their power to make spacific animations for swords/gs when a specific spec was used. No reason if warrior got a samurai or a close proximity spec they couldn't change the animations for sw,gs and bow to fit the specs playstyle better, but that said it's anet so any extra work to improve the experience is unlikely.

> @"Shieldbash.5304" said: > Spellbreaker is already disgusting and invincible practically. Lmao wut? It's one of the weakest specs and wars one of the weakest classes currently. Although healbreaker build is crazy sustain it hits for $hit, isn't that how it should be. Just a question and no disrespect at all but how long have u been playing for?

I vote for warrior even though the Feb patch neutered them. The 5 sec weapon swap discipline line gives make fights with warrior feel smooth while giving warrior adaptability with in each fight. War also had great damage potential that didn't rely on cheese meme strategies in the form of punishing its opponents hard that made mistakes causing them to be caught in the wars predictable cc and burst. The wars predictable bursts and mostly easily tell able skills led warrior mains to either get creative to land their bursts or wait patiently for a mistake to capitalize on. Unfortunately the Feb patch took half of the wars ability to punish mistakes via removing damage from all cc skills, that said their still a blast to play if u like dueling. Also warrior has a meta heal build if u like support. Ultimately play what u like most, but the game doesn't need another burn guard, trap dh or necro imo lol.