yakuza snowdragon.4639 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Please consider changing this as in my opinion its more like an currency and pointless at high level being locked to a single Character. I have 10 level 80's each class with crafts spread between them all but I Main a Guardian. When new elites are added to game I need to go grind Hp's for each class to be leveled further while my Main has both Elites at max and 400+ HP's with no use at all. Can Hp's be used somehow I'm unaware of or do I simple have enough Hp's to activate the next five expacs elite classes added? Frustrating a little as I enjoy all classes but my playstyle and what I enjoy is on my Main. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khailyn.6248 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 The only way they could do this is if they removed hero points from map completion. Which I dont see them doing personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopehannibal.8947 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 This probably wouldn't work. Each character needs to spend Hero Points on traits and skills. How would it work if lets say, you did 100% of the Hero Challenges on one character, then six months later you made a new character? Would a new, level 1 character have access to all the traits and skill at once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 The game has almost no character progression: leveling, elite specializations, and gear. With each expansion, all we _must_ do is the hero challenges for the elite specs. (The gear might still be good and with stat transformation for ascended gear, it's barely a barrier). If you want to use your main to earn hero challenges for your alts, do WvW. You can do exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Aside from the rework of the way characters buy skills and traits in addition to the Elite Spec lines, the garnering of Hero Points is one concession to the MMO mainstay of character progression. Would you rather grind out levels each XPac, as well as new gear? I would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > If you want to use your main to earn hero challenges for your alts, do WvW. You can do exactly that. This. I had the elite specs for all of my charaters within an hour of PoF going live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtpelion.4562 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I'd like to buy the HP unlocks (the ones currently available in WvW) using Soul Shards as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 So you’re saying get all the Hero points once and then you can spend them as often as you like no matter how many characters you make? Even brand new chars can get all their skills and traits paid for from your maxed out hero point pool as soon as they appear in the starting instance? I don’t think that would work out as well as you’d hope as it would remove lots of character progression earned by playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopehannibal.8947 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > The game has almost no character progression: leveling, elite specializations, and gear. > With each expansion, all we _must_ do is the hero challenges for the elite specs. (The gear might still be good and with stat transformation for ascended gear, it's barely a barrier). > > If you want to use your main to earn hero challenges for your alts, do WvW. You can do exactly that. This is a pretty good tip this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > If you want to use your main to earn hero challenges for your alts, do WvW. You can do exactly that. > > This. I had the elite specs for all of my charaters within an hour of PoF going live. > > I would love to know how to do this, but each time I go into WvW I simply get ganked. :( Clearly, this very casual player isn't WvW material! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirlias.8104 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Map completion and HP account bound would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alehin.3746 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just do WvW and use the proof of heroics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdark.3726 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I want Anet to play the game for me and I just watch it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > I would love to know how to do this, but each time I go into WvW I simply get ganked. :( Clearly, this very casual player isn't WvW material! It's extremely common for those new to WvW to get ganked: you don't know your way around, you don't know likely danger spots (or dangerous times), you aren't used to players reacting faster than NPCs, you're unsure about what/where/when. There aren't any real "secrets" about going from noob to, let's say, less unlethal; it's time & experience. Die, get up, try to make a different mistake next time. A couple of ways to get that experience: * Find someone else to run with, even if they are also new. It's more fun & many solo roamers will ignore you. * Give yourself short-term goals and a time limit: take 15 minutes to get to the hero challenges on the map (you can also do them, but that's adding a bit more danger) or figure out how to cap a camp solo before the enemy notices (speed is important, not just ability to handle the NPCs). * Find the beefiest build you with high mobility and follow a commander. Some commanders running organized raids might /kick, but those running open squads won't. Do whatever the commander says (well, within reason). Mostly it's about watching and learning. And that takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashberry.4510 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I like doing hero points on each toon. Something to look forward to at 80. I also enjoy helping folks get theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossaber.8934 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I have 17 lv80, i have each one of them ran through pof hp to gain unlock to their elite spec. Not to mention most of them have Hot elite as well. I am fine as long as hp kept the same difficulty level as PoF, soloable. Especially i prefer to learn and try the traits after unlocked the first major trait and using the unfinished traitline to go through each hp one by one, in order to learn the new spec. I also have 10+ complete runs to help my friend to unlock elite spec from ground 0 in pof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 > @"Shirlias.8104" said: > Map completion and HP account bound would be nice. So you would only like to do 2 gen 1 legendaries and 2 gen 2 if you won pof and hot that is? And thats total for your account cant get anymore ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakuza snowdragon.4639 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > So you’re saying get all the Hero points once and then you can spend them as often as you like no matter how many characters you make? Even brand new chars can get all their skills and traits paid for from your maxed out hero point pool as soon as they appear in the starting instance? I don’t think that would work out as well as you’d hope as it would remove lots of character progression earned by playing. > > Not at all, I'm saying I have a main with all its Elites unlocked and 400+ Hero Points I cant use or trade for anything that I'm currently aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 > @"yakuza snowdragon.4639" said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > So you’re saying get all the Hero points once and then you can spend them as often as you like no matter how many characters you make? Even brand new chars can get all their skills and traits paid for from your maxed out hero point pool as soon as they appear in the starting instance? I don’t think that would work out as well as you’d hope as it would remove lots of character progression earned by playing. > > > > > > Not at all, I'm saying I have a main with all its Elites unlocked and 400+ Hero Points I cant use or trade for anything that I'm currently aware of. That character can instantly get next elite spec in the future expansion thats about it mate. Edit I for one rather have that then zero extra and having to do everything when said expansion hits, look how people moan that its to few easy mastery points in central tyria for example do you really want the same to be said about hero points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 > @"yakuza snowdragon.4639" said: > > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > > So you’re saying get all the Hero points once and then you can spend them as often as you like no matter how many characters you make? Even brand new chars can get all their skills and traits paid for from your maxed out hero point pool as soon as they appear in the starting instance? I don’t think that would work out as well as you’d hope as it would remove lots of character progression earned by playing. > > > > > > Not at all, I'm saying I have a main with all its Elites unlocked and 400+ Hero Points I cant use or trade for anything that I'm currently aware of. Then you save them for the next expansion’s Elite because what you’re suggesting will end up with a large account bound pool that all chars will use to instantly buy all traits and skills, even brand new chars straight out of character select. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blambidy.3216 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I personally don’t think so. If gw2 characters were like ffxiv and that each character can do all classes then sure. However since they are 9 diff classes with different characters, elite specs should be divided so you don’t consume one hp you needed for a diff character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirlias.8104 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Shirlias.8104" said: > > Map completion and HP account bound would be nice. > > So you would only like to do 2 gen 1 legendaries and 2 gen 2 if you won pof and hot that is? And thats total for your account cant get anymore ever. There would be a different way in order to do them, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I don't like the sound of this, I prefer them to remain the way they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 They are already super irrelevant. If you are playing WvW you can unlock all of them without ever touching any of the maps at all if you really want. It entirely removes character progression and that is a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcShriek.5829 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 > @"Underdark.3726" said: > I want Anet to play the game for me and I just watch it... I still don't understand why they make us log in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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