reikken.4961 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 As in, either 3 stat: condi primary, healing power secondary, or 4 stat: condi and healing power primary seems simple enough, but doesn't exist. Anet seems to be avoiding this combination. All Path of Fire gear has power primary. It technically exists in "Apostate", but that isn't available on level 80 gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I think seraph stats have condi dmg/precision as main, and healpower/concentration as secondary. As close to what you want as it can get, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I'm sure it would result in unkillable specs with solid damage output, but I can definitely think of some condi/healing weaver builds I'd like to try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 You can also mix pieces like magi+rabid ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > I think seraph stats have condi dmg/precision as main, and healpower/concentration as secondary. As close to what you want as it can get, for now. It is a lot weaker. It's the difference between ascended and masterwork (green) as far as condi+healing stat totals go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Trejgon.2809 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 well I'd say that it is very likely that 4stat you mentioned does not exist because of druids.... that 3stat sounds familiar, are you sure it is not out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 > @"Lord Trejgon.2809" said: > that 3stat sounds familiar, are you sure it is not out there? It exists only as Apostate gear, which is only found on sub-80 "[leveling](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Leveling_equipment#Loot_equipment "leveling")" weapons There's also Apothecary and Shaman, but neither have condi primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 this would be the worst stat combo to be introduced into the game. they had something like this in pvp a while back but removed it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 For sure it would be bad for PvP, but most stat PvE stat spreads aren't in PvP anyway, so keeping it out of PvP isn't an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 > @"reikken.4961" said: > As in, either > 3 stat: condi primary, healing power secondary, or I hope not, as I have no intention of ever using healing power in any builds. Arenanet already wasted my time adding new healing power stats in PoF, which for me was basically a useless expansion from the point of new stats, I don't want to see that repeated again, because being rewarded with stat gear that I do not want, need, or use, is not rewarding. In fact yesterday I earned a PoF ascended amulet with healing stats from an achievement which I could not even salvage with an ascended tool, so I just deleted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeno.4962 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > @"reikken.4961" said: > > As in, either > > 3 stat: condi primary, healing power secondary, or > > I hope not, as I have no intention of ever using healing power in any builds. Arenanet already wasted my time adding new healing power stats in PoF, which for me was basically a useless expansion from the point of new stats, I don't want to see that repeated again, because being rewarded with stat gear that I do not want, need, or use, is not rewarding. > > In fact yesterday I earned a PoF ascended amulet with healing stats from an achievement which I could not even salvage with an ascended tool, so I just deleted it. > From your post I take you play dps builds. In terms of high-level pve, I doubt there's gonna be any other group of stats better than what we already have: berserker, assassin, viper, sinister and grieving cover basically everything. The exception might be condition damage/precision/expertise for scourges since power coefficients in scepter are quite bad and it could use more condition damage without losing expertise. However, support builds severely lack optimised stats. So asking for them for future releases ain't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"Akeno.4962" said: > > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > > @"reikken.4961" said: > > > As in, either > > > 3 stat: condi primary, healing power secondary, or > > > > I hope not, as I have no intention of ever using healing power in any builds. Arenanet already wasted my time adding new healing power stats in PoF, which for me was basically a useless expansion from the point of new stats, I don't want to see that repeated again, because being rewarded with stat gear that I do not want, need, or use, is not rewarding. > > > > In fact yesterday I earned a PoF ascended amulet with healing stats from an achievement which I could not even salvage with an ascended tool, so I just deleted it. > > > > From your post I take you play dps builds. In terms of high-level pve, I doubt there's gonna be any other group of stats better than what we already have: berserker, assassin, viper, sinister and grieving cover basically everything. > > The exception might be condition damage/precision/expertise for scourges since power coefficients in scepter are quite bad and it could use more condition damage without losing expertise. > > However, support builds severely lack optimised stats. So asking for them for future releases ain't bad. A condi/precision/expertise combo could be used to replace viper's. Builds using 4 nightmare+2trapper or +20% duration sigils could potentially drop one of those and go with berserker runes or bursting/malice sigil instead or go with some combination of new combo+sinister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Trejgon.2809 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > @"reikken.4961" said: > > As in, either > > 3 stat: condi primary, healing power secondary, or > > I hope not, as I have no intention of ever using healing power in any builds. Arenanet already wasted my time adding new healing power stats in PoF, which for me was basically a useless expansion from the point of new stats, I don't want to see that repeated again, because being rewarded with stat gear that I do not want, need, or use, is not rewarding. > > In fact yesterday I earned a PoF ascended amulet with healing stats from an achievement which I could not even salvage with an ascended tool, so I just deleted it. > TL: DR: this sort of stats are no use for me therefore I hope no one ever gets these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einlanzer.1627 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"Vavume.8065" said: > > @"reikken.4961" said: > > As in, either > > 3 stat: condi primary, healing power secondary, or > > I hope not, as I have no intention of ever using healing power in any builds. Arenanet already wasted my time adding new healing power stats in PoF, which for me was basically a useless expansion from the point of new stats, I don't want to see that repeated again, because being rewarded with stat gear that I do not want, need, or use, is not rewarding. > > In fact yesterday I earned a PoF ascended amulet with healing stats from an achievement which I could not even salvage with an ascended tool, so I just deleted it. > So, you think that stat combinations you are not personally interested in using shouldn't be added to the game for those that are? Wow, okay then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"Akeno.4962" said: > I doubt there's gonna be any other group of stats better than what we already have: berserker, assassin, viper, sinister and grieving cover basically everything. > However, support builds severely lack optimised stats. So asking for them for future releases ain't bad. I agree I think we already have the best stat combo's possible, but I would rather see them add new rewards to the game rather than some new stat type that is useless to most people, bottom line is I think they are clutching at straws already with stat combo's, it's time to stop making more and come up with something else that is rewarding for us to get. > @"Einlanzer.1627" said: > So, you think that stat combinations you are not personally interested in using shouldn't be added to the game for those that are? > Wow, okay then. The stat combo's they added are only useful to a minority of the player base, those combo's should not have been achievement rewards for the WHOLE playerbase, they should have been added some other way, I do not wish to complete achievements and be given ascended gear that I will never use, they should have put all those new stat combo's on vendors instead, some of it was, but I feel all of it should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einlanzer.1627 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I do think they are reaching a point with the whole attribute combo system that they need to overhaul the actual system instead of just continuing to add new 2nd tier combos that are harder to get than 1st tier combos. Also, power is still too over-emphasized. They need to solve that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Power is also the only thing guaranteed to do something useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash.3974 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > this would be the worst stat combo to be introduced into the game. they had something like this in pvp a while back but removed it... It actually still exists in pvp. The sage amulet has condi power/power/healingpower & vitaly stats power and condi power being the main stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptAurellian.9537 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"reikken.4961" said: > For sure it would be bad for PvP, but most stat PvE stat spreads aren't in PvP anyway, so keeping it out of PvP isn't an issue. PvD may be the issue, though - at least if the lack of such a 4-stat combo is intended. Personally, I'd rather assume that the RNG they use for creating new stat combos just by chance hasn't produced it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"Nash.3974" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > this would be the worst stat combo to be introduced into the game. they had something like this in pvp a while back but removed it... > > It actually still exists in pvp. The sage amulet has condi power/power/healingpower & vitaly stats power and condi power being the main stats was probably referring to the settler's amulet, which was actually an issue because of having toughness and healing power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosphorite.6192 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I would very much like a Combination with Condi and Healing as primaries. Power is super uninteresting to me and I'm running trailblazer on my thief currently. A four-stat combination with Condi/Heal as primary and Expertise/Vitality as secondary would be grand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeno.4962 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 > @"Khisanth.2948" said: > > A condi/precision/expertise combo could be used to replace viper's. Builds using 4 nightmare+2trapper or +20% duration sigils could potentially drop one of those and go with berserker runes or bursting/malice sigil instead or go with some combination of new combo+sinister. I think it would only be really useful in a situation where power damage is totally negligible. That situation might only be in scourge's case, since ever other condi build i can think of has some power reliant skills. Also, as far as I'm aware, aren't most condi build running renegade's runes nowadays? Only renegade and soulbeast seem to run them right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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