Adzekul.3104 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 What do you think these stats are good for? Some sort of support is the assumption, I presume: Major condi damage and vitality, minor healing power and concentration. What examples of classes/specs and circumstances do you think this might work? Scourge healer in ? Seems unlikely, but who knows. Hybrid burn/heal firebrand? Discussion encouraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 How often do you use seraph stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I could see it being used for support Scourge (that high Vitality makes life force management much easier, so more use of F2-5) and a hybrid condition/support Firebrand, yeah. Other than that, maybe a condi Chrono variant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zushada.6108 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 We have talked in Guild that it has potential for FB and Druid. Hypothesizing rather than a Druid running full Vipers or Harriers run Plaguedoctor to get a little more DPS out of a Heal Druid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bast.7253 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I sorta of tried this set on my Druid and it felt a little slow. But didn’t look up condi healing Druid builds so my build was a mess. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 An alternative to shaman for a hybrid burn FB or w.e. Atleast in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 might replace my shaman gear with plaguedoctor for my condi/support ele and necro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner.4621 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I was thinking condi/support tempest myself, for havoc/roaming, it's pretty easy to cap or come close to cap on burn duration even without expertise for ele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjam.8634 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 To me it seems like a no brainer to put it on support fb but was wondering if someone else has done it with success in t4s and possibly raids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben.3254 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 When will these stats become selectable for the mist trinkets you acquire from wvw? They're supposed to offer every stat option but plaguedoctor isn't available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 > @"Sojourner.4621" said: > I was thinking condi/support tempest myself, for havoc/roaming, it's pretty easy to cap or come close to cap on burn duration even without expertise for ele. Same for guardian and engi. Berserker too but the stat combo is probably not relevant to berserker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner.4621 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 > @"Khisanth.2948" said: > > @"Sojourner.4621" said: > > I was thinking condi/support tempest myself, for havoc/roaming, it's pretty easy to cap or come close to cap on burn duration even without expertise for ele. > > Same for guardian and engi. Berserker too but the stat combo is probably not relevant to berserker Oh yeah for sure Guard... I'd have to really think over what utility engi would really gain from this stat set, I've never looked at engi long enough to see if its burns really overlap at all with its support like Tempest/Firebrand/Scourge can... someone had already mentioned firebrand or scourge though so I didn't think it necessary to elaborate on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Useful for wvw, yes, firebrand support plus condi hybrid. Maybe same scourge role, too (cant see why, since scourge has terrible scaling with healpower) Cant see any other uses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptAurellian.9537 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 > @"Zushada.6108" said: > We have talked in Guild that it has potential for FB and Druid. Hypothesizing rather than a Druid running full Vipers or Harriers run Plaguedoctor to get a little more DPS out of a Heal Druid. Won't do much for a heal druid, since its main weapons don't have a great condi output. And in case of a condi druid, it will certainly increase your healing while in avatar, but on the other hand you'll sacrifice a lot of damage by having no expertise. A hybrid support-dps FB would make more use of it, but then we see how often seraph stats are used, and they are better for PvE than this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnicron.2467 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 > @"Cjam.8634" said: > To me it seems like a no brainer to put it on support fb but was wondering if someone else has done it with success in t4s and possibly raids Well you suffer from a loss of expertise, so why bother buffing your condition damage if you can do better support gear? The problem I would guess is that Healing power is a minor in a four stat whereas Harrier has it on a 3 stat, so you get better support I would say that it could be interesting if one stat was swapped for expertise which condi builds really need in PvE For Firebrand it would be interesting if Vitality was swapped for Expertise since a Guardian cannot get much use out of Vitality For Scourge I would imagine a support build where the Concentration is swapped for expertise. Both of these could options have been interesting mixed support DPS options but with the current state plaguedoctor offers us I doubt it. Maybe in WvW??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryrok.1302 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I've been messing with the idea of a supportive soulbeast, something that can leverage the supportive beast types, blast/whirl finishers and access to fields. Condi damage can take advantage of the Vitality -> Expertise conversion built into the class. I'm terrible at builds, but thinking something like this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNMQNBlQD7kRFokFsjXwhXgoFsQJYORuKXPLP32bLuNBgGXEIljEnoiA-jxhXQBfU9HRqEEA7PESlfdU3QouIA15JAQKgFlZB-e The concentration is particularly important on this build, as it can allow for close to 100% protection uptime (which also affects conditions and heals you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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