Darknicrofia.2604 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 3.2k armor FB with protection up, got hit by a 16k meteor shower and insta downed. yea totally a l2p issue. /kappa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubi.4136 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Sadly, it is NOT a bug. The skill was doing more damage than the tooltip said. They buffed base damage an additional 20% for some reason. Then they fixed the tooltip to read correctly. Based on what the patch notes say, and the roughly 20% increase in base damge appearing in game, it looks intentional. It's OP as shit, but intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Qemist.6712 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Not going to lie, it's the most fun I've had in wvw for a while. https://imgur.com/a/W7azldv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Flux Qemist.6712" said: > Not going to lie, it's the most fun I've had in wvw for a while. > https://imgur.com/a/W7azldv I see a soothing mist healbot in there so at least the enemy didnt meet all meteors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta.2563 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I have a feeling this skill is ignoring toughness completely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyra.4709 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > I noticed that something was off when a single Weaver almost instantly blew up an Arrow Cart I was manning. Took maybe 3 or 4 seconds. Definitely not the experience that I've made before. Yeah commander I was following dropped x 2 sup catas at mends. 1 ele rocked up and dropped the shower... Catas were well below half. It was more noticeable seeing a handful of pugs drop in a matter of seconds on a few occasions where the enemy eles were being ballsy; out of position obnoxious as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammuz.7361 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 if ele pirateship meta is the intent, then i wish theyd just say so... so that we can all decide to either roll ele or find something else to play for3 months, can we get an official response on this please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewfield.7802 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Anet plz do something. Atm Meteor is absolutely broken ! and i think that dhummfire nerf is just too hard. maybe 1 sec interval is enough. otherwise you forces us to back to power build and then what's the point of balance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahmia.2193 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Rampage.7145" said: > It is not an ICD problem, the damage calcutation for the skill itself is bugged, that is it, this is not intended, but everyone knows arenanet dosnt read WvW forums u saw how fast they patched the deadeye bug (less than 24h) cuz affected their glorified PVE, WvW it will take until the next balance patch o some kitten for this guys to do something about this (if they even do somethign about it at all), enjoy 3 months+ of meteor wars bois. You say that but Anet had a large raid in wvw yesterday with NSP. Streamed and everything. I'm hoping they saw how OP it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory.2879 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Ah from what I see, Ele finally gets to put out the sort of damage numbers stealth abusers, mesmers, CoR users (which has a lot lower cooldown) on a skill which has a long channel and you're all on here crying about it. Might even log in at the weekend back on my healer ele..or continue sniping with my ranger as there will be a lot more squishy targets toi kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry.5713 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Running through a Meteor Shower these days feels like you are storming Omaha Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Victory.2879" said: > Ah from what I see, Ele finally gets to put out the sort of damage numbers stealth abusers, mesmers, CoR users (which has a lot lower cooldown) on a skill which has a long channel and you're all on here crying about it. > > Might even log in at the weekend back on my healer ele..or continue sniping with my ranger as there will be a lot more squishy targets toi kill. I don't think multiple 16k met showers are the same as single 1 shot kills, especially when there is like 4/5 weavers doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammuz.7361 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 yah i can see this getting very pirateshippy very fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme.3602 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Victory.2879" said: > Ah from what I see, Ele finally gets to put out the sort of damage numbers stealth abusers, mesmers, CoR users (which has a lot lower cooldown) on a skill which has a long channel and you're all on here crying about it. > > Might even log in at the weekend back on my healer ele..or continue sniping with my ranger as there will be a lot more squishy targets toi kill. You can't kill competent eles who run arcane traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etheri.5406 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Dahir.4158" said: > > @"Victory.2879" said: > > Ah from what I see, Ele finally gets to put out the sort of damage numbers stealth abusers, mesmers, CoR users (which has a lot lower cooldown) on a skill which has a long channel and you're all on here crying about it. > > > > Might even log in at the weekend back on my healer ele..or continue sniping with my ranger as there will be a lot more squishy targets toi kill. > > You can't kill competent eles who run arcane traits. I agree with broski, weaver is very safe unless you're pushing enemy objectives or doing threeways. The safety of weaver in even fights, openfield fights or defensive fights is absurd considering howmuch it can kite and move. Especially now that it's mostly just meteo. Before you had to pressure 24/7 to be relevant. Now if you get a good meteo every 25-30s you're going to do at least 75% of someone who pressures constantly. That said, weavers can kill other weavers with meteor RNG - with enough RNG you even bypass arcana shield. Fun gameplay, great counterplay :trollface: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimon.7840 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 It's been like this for a long time. People just didn't notice and played necro because they could face roll and still be decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinens.5920 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Is everyone complaining in full zerk gear or somethin? I mainly run a power scourge in raids (1141 toughness/1648 vitality), and meteor shower doesn't do nearly the damage to me that you folks are all claiming. Yeah, I can't stand in it for the full animation, but to be almost 1-shot on the 1st tick? That 1st tick barley dents my health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspirine.6852 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Dahir.4158" said: > > @"Victory.2879" said: > > Ah from what I see, Ele finally gets to put out the sort of damage numbers stealth abusers, mesmers, CoR users (which has a lot lower cooldown) on a skill which has a long channel and you're all on here crying about it. > > > > Might even log in at the weekend back on my healer ele..or continue sniping with my ranger as there will be a lot more squishy targets toi kill. > > You can't kill competent eles who run arcane traits. You could do a nice bombing movie for us to see. Imagine the numbers on reset night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dediggefedde.4961 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Odinens.5920" said: > Is everyone complaining in full zerk gear or something? I ran minstrel engi and was down on 3 occasions in 2-3 hits. Staying inside a meteor-shower at the moment only works if the mage traited for heal... This only happens on walls, though. In open field I usually can avoid all meteor-hits. Yesterday, when we were having a guild run in WvW, there was a meteor-shower on a wall and people were going downed state despite having a minstrel guard and scourge in each group, protection and barrier applied. Hasn't happened in past runs in similar situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme.3602 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"aspirine.6852" said: > > @"Dahir.4158" said: > > > @"Victory.2879" said: > > > Ah from what I see, Ele finally gets to put out the sort of damage numbers stealth abusers, mesmers, CoR users (which has a lot lower cooldown) on a skill which has a long channel and you're all on here crying about it. > > > > > > Might even log in at the weekend back on my healer ele..or continue sniping with my ranger as there will be a lot more squishy targets toi kill. > > > > You can't kill competent eles who run arcane traits. > > You could do a nice bombing movie for us to see. Imagine the numbers on reset night. I will see what I can do. Don't expect much from my bad gameplay :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspirine.6852 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Dahir.4158" said: > > @"aspirine.6852" said: > > > @"Dahir.4158" said: > > > > @"Victory.2879" said: > > > > Ah from what I see, Ele finally gets to put out the sort of damage numbers stealth abusers, mesmers, CoR users (which has a lot lower cooldown) on a skill which has a long channel and you're all on here crying about it. > > > > > > > > Might even log in at the weekend back on my healer ele..or continue sniping with my ranger as there will be a lot more squishy targets toi kill. > > > > > > You can't kill competent eles who run arcane traits. > > > > You could do a nice bombing movie for us to see. Imagine the numbers on reset night. > > I will see what I can do. Don't expect much from my bad gameplay :P ? bad... I'm pretty sure it will be some impressive numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 fights move, we move. but always compact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djamonja.6453 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 It seems like it's hitting for about 25% more since the patch -- pre-patch I'd get hit for 10-12k occasionally from a (presumably) full zerker ele, but I'm getting hit for 15-16k a couple times a night now. Culling really makes this a problem -- if you don't see the spell effects or the circle, you are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Victory.2879" said: > Ah from what I see, Ele finally gets to put out the sort of damage numbers stealth abusers, mesmers, CoR users (which has a lot lower cooldown) on a skill which has a long channel and you're all on here crying about it. > > Might even log in at the weekend back on my healer ele..or continue sniping with my ranger as there will be a lot more squishy targets toi kill. It's clearly not intentional and please, you can't tell me you don't see the issue when a long range aoe skill deals that much damage. When a single weaver is enough to make parts of the wall absolutely impossible to walk through because clipping the shower already means you could go down, something you'd usually need a bunch of necro marks and other aoe pressure for. When a single Weaver in the backline can nuke an entire group instantly. Stop defending this, nobody says anything against the fact that staff ele can do it in general, just that the numbers are way higher than they are supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etheri.5406 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > > @"Victory.2879" said: > > Ah from what I see, Ele finally gets to put out the sort of damage numbers stealth abusers, mesmers, CoR users (which has a lot lower cooldown) on a skill which has a long channel and you're all on here crying about it. > > > > Might even log in at the weekend back on my healer ele..or continue sniping with my ranger as there will be a lot more squishy targets toi kill. > > When a single Weaver in the backline can nuke an entire group instantly. Stop defending this, nobody says anything against the fact that staff ele can do it in general, just that the numbers are way higher than they are supposed to be. Good players were pretty close to this for several patches despite everyone nagging about scourges. And you can stack weavers all you like; but then you're just playing one-shot wars with no reliable way of keeping the enemies in the damage. Aka go stand in a choke or sit in ... fire keep .... waiting until the enemy hopefully comes pushes you. Because if you push and they meteo first... Well rip? but I agree the damage is too high. Single players killing mediocre pug groups should be reserved for good gameplay, not for pressing meteo once or twice ;) Besides, this change completely screwed the ele skillcap. Rather than being able to have way higher dps by constantly providing pressure through all your other skills; most of those are now irrelevant as lavafont got nerfed significantly; enemy meteors prevent you from going as aggresive and meteor does most of the job anyways. Anet introducing bugs to lower the skillcap in WvW?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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