Jack Redline.5379 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I see nobody said Thieves were nerfed so i will just put my obligatory rant dot here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenedge.9675 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 One of each class FTW. Whichever way the wind blows. Life brings change - adapt or die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > @"miriforst.1290" said: > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > > > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > > > > Mesmer and Engi got removed from the WvW Meta. > > > > > > > > Nice patch indeed. > > > > > > > > Its even more scourge + Firebrand only. > > > > > > > > Awesome > > > > > > > > > > Did Scrapper get nerfed that bad? Apologize for ignorance, I don't play Scrapper, but their superspeed is oh so nice. > > > > Super speed fields got removed. We got a nice 10% extra damage while we are under stability though which I'm sure the 0.5 scrappers in raids love. > > So ANET basically pulled a "Hey Scrappers you are now actually wanted in WVW, annnnddddd it's gone" This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriforst.1290 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > @"miriforst.1290" said: > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > > > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > > > > Mesmer and Engi got removed from the WvW Meta. > > > > > > > > Nice patch indeed. > > > > > > > > Its even more scourge + Firebrand only. > > > > > > > > Awesome > > > > > > > > > > Did Scrapper get nerfed that bad? Apologize for ignorance, I don't play Scrapper, but their superspeed is oh so nice. > > > > Super speed fields got removed. We got a nice 10% extra damage while we are under stability though which I'm sure the 0.5 scrappers in raids love. > > So ANET basically pulled a "Hey Scrappers you are now actually wanted in WVW, annnnddddd it's gone" Someone still got a hate kitten from our days of soloing 3+ players at ease. So if we turn up as effective in any way we gotta be taught a lesson. Lets call it a "buff" though. Oh well cant wait 6 month for the next balance patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"syszery.1592" said: > Last weekend I was thinking of gearing a chrono for Raid (and maybe also for wvw). Thank god I am not very spontaneous =) chrono is still a top tier raid class probably even still #1. just doesn't solo carry so hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzarakiel.7490 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 The issue isn't that they nerfed the chronomancer. The issue is that they nerfed it before creating viable alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > Can we just accept.changes and move on Merits of the rebalancing aside, when has the community ever done that? That's been true for every change to the game since launch. There are still people who rail against the addition of ascended gear to the game, even though that happened not long after launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"Tzarakiel.7490" said: > The issue isn't that they nerfed the chronomancer. The issue is that they nerfed it before creating viable alternatives. That's because they never wanted to create viable alternatives. All those people thinking how they are going to fill chrono shoes soon ("just one nerf more"), are in for a big surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanok.3027 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"syszery.1592" said: > Last weekend I was thinking of gearing a chrono for Raid (and maybe also for wvw). Thank god I am not very spontaneous =) You're lucky. I blew over 70g on the two sigils of concentration alone and now they are worth 3g. Fantastic Anet. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I'm sure the people in raids playing Chrono are going to love doing mostly the same thing but playing Firebrand instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel.8270 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 They made Deadeye's death judgement blockable and took down some of the damage output from the class. I know most of this thread is talking about chronos, but i play deadeye a lot and i loved the class, now I'm a bit unhappy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Serious answer: We have to. There is nothing players can do or say which will revert the decision and direction Arenanet has taken. Their data on raid completion, class activity, player activity and such will determinate their future actions. They've already announced future changes and disruptions (which I credit them for since this at least gives players some warning not to get to attached or invested into their current builds). What we can hope for though is eventually down the road a sort of roadmap which they start following to prevent such major disruptions. Be it a stricter meta and more designated roles, specialized tanks or healers, I don't care personally. A full reshuffle of the, granted niche, group content will be unhealthy to the game if done to often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon de Damasco.8105 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Can we just accept.people always going to argue and move on Oh, well! I did the same, sad sad. Have fun and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails.9372 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"Laila Lightness.8742" said: > Can we just accept.changes and move on ... So much negativity about balance patch So we should be happy about our favorite builds getting run into the ground for often times no apparent reason? The gameplay is a big part why people enjoy a game to begin with and the whole point of these changes is to screw with the gameplay so of course people are going to be negative about it if one of these changes affects their gameplay experience in a negative way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laila Lightness.8742 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"Tails.9372" said: > > @"Laila Lightness.8742" said: > > Can we just accept.changes and move on ... So much negativity about balance patch > > So we should be happy about our favorite builds getting run into the ground for often times no apparent reason? The gameplay is a big part why people enjoy a game to begin with and the whole point of these changes is to screw with the gameplay so of course people are going to be negative about it if one of these changes affects their gameplay experience in a negative way. It happends sad as its all builds will get this sooner or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinnitty.8256 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 GW1 was never balanced GW2 will never be balanced, ANET shifts metas that's what they do. Its just bad in gw2 because gw1 had a skill point system where gear stats didn't matter a lot. I'd rather have a point system instead of stats tied to gear. say put 20 points in power 20 in precision and 20 in ferocity that equals beserker stats. Then you can take some points out put them in what ever stat combo you want. Integrate build templates much easier as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSacred.1942 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"Cyninja.2954" said: > Their data on raid completion, class activity, player activity and such will determinate their future actions. They've already announced future changes and disruptions (which I credit them for since this at least gives players some warning not to get to attached or invested into their current builds). Looking at this and previous changes they "balance" game based only on raiding tournaments and SC videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateless gate.8406 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"Tails.9372" said: > > @"Laila Lightness.8742" said: > > Can we just accept.changes and move on ... So much negativity about balance patch > > So we should be happy about our favorite builds getting run into the ground for often times no apparent reason? No apparent reason? In no other MMO is one single spec the only tank, while also being the best support (and by a large margin). It was very weird. Granted, Anet should not have let it get so out of control and let it continue for so long, but there is a very, very clear reason why Chrono was nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateless gate.8406 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"SierraRei.8526" said: > Same goes for fractals, where chrono's spot is still uncontested but now they have half the CC, playing them is more of a chore, and missing a well can be a death sentence for your DPS. If your DPS doesn't have 100% uptime on quickness/alactrity, it "can be a death sentence"? -- what game are you playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails.9372 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 > @"gateless gate.8406" said: > > @"Tails.9372" said: > > > @"Laila Lightness.8742" said: > > > Can we just accept.changes and move on ... So much negativity about balance patch > > > > So we should be happy about our favorite builds getting run into the ground for often times no apparent reason? > > No apparent reason? In no other MMO is one single spec the only tank, while also being the best support (and by a large margin). It was very weird. Granted, Anet should not have let it get so out of control and let it continue for so long, but there is a very, very clear reason why Chrono was nerfed. I was talking about these patches in general (hence the "often times"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"Tzarakiel.7490" said: > > The issue isn't that they nerfed the chronomancer. The issue is that they nerfed it before creating viable alternatives. > That's because they never wanted to create viable alternatives. All those people thinking how they are going to fill chrono shoes soon ("just one nerf more"), are in for a big surprise. > Agreed. The intent seems to be to parcel desirable support among different professions. So, instead of Chron/Druid and DPS, they envision a bigger spread of support across more professions. What I think is likely to happen as a result is that meta will become Chrono (for quickness/alacrity); whatever provides the best might; the best fury uptime, and a Guardian if Stab/Aegis/Protection are deemed necessary; plus DPS). If meta is being enforced in 5-person groups, that could mean 1 slot for the other professions -- which would not be a positive change, imo. Raid groups might also be more restrictive. Maybe ANet will surprise me pleasantly and that won't happen, but they don't do that very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsakhi.8124 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 ... No, because some forum goers have the maturity and foresight of a five year old; they think that THEY are right, that they know what's best because THEY PLAY THE GAME, goddamn it, and they apparently can't adapt to change. You say you spent money on equipment and you're fucking pissed. Well, get over it? I mean it's your fault that you're following a meta and can't think for yourselves. Deal with it or get out. I'm sorry, but listening to you people crying like a bunch of babies without a tit rubs me the wrong way, after awhile. You're adults, act like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 > @"gateless gate.8406" said: > > @"Tails.9372" said: > > > @"Laila Lightness.8742" said: > > > Can we just accept.changes and move on ... So much negativity about balance patch > > > > So we should be happy about our favorite builds getting run into the ground for often times no apparent reason? > > No apparent reason? In no other MMO is one single spec the only tank, while also being the best support (and by a large margin). It was very weird. Granted, Anet should not have let it get so out of control and let it continue for so long, but there is a very, very clear reason why Chrono was nerfed. > > So what buff did they recieve to balance all the nerfs mesmers got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinens.5920 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 If we weren't negative about seemingly un-thought-out changes Anet, or any other gaming company, would never know if they got it right or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateless gate.8406 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"gateless gate.8406" said: > > > @"Tails.9372" said: > > > > @"Laila Lightness.8742" said: > > > > Can we just accept.changes and move on ... So much negativity about balance patch > > > > > > So we should be happy about our favorite builds getting run into the ground for often times no apparent reason? > > > > No apparent reason? In no other MMO is one single spec the only tank, while also being the best support (and by a large margin). It was very weird. Granted, Anet should not have let it get so out of control and let it continue for so long, but there is a very, very clear reason why Chrono was nerfed. > > > > > > So what buff did they recieve to balance all the nerfs mesmers got? What buff did who receive? Mesmers? The purpose of nerfing the god class is to make it less godly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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