Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 We got 3 health tiers for a reason.... Dont know what it is, but the game devs said there was one Let's respect that. Easier to balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 rip ele. Why not just have 3 stats? damage, healing, defense. Would be even easier to balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Rip ele. Poor guy having less health then a mesmer clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrownyClown.8402 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 guess i will just main deadeye and 1 shot everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster.8752 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 That just further buffs evasion/invuln mechanics which already suck to fight against and are OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycura.1982 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Wouldn't that favor classes with the most built in mitigation? OwO what's this? "Notices class" couldn't be a biased stand point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xervite.5493 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Yes lets remove attributes from a game mode and dumb down the damage calc. That sound interesting to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotte in space.2158 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Yesterday he wrote >Suggestion Remove 4 Stat Amulets from PvP Today he wants >Suggestion remove toughness and vitality from all gear pvp What comes next ? Can level of incompetence still be raised ? Expecting next thread coming soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Pft, that's easy to ask for that when you're playing a class that can stealth indefinitely and be able to 1 shot nearly everyone (assuming this went live) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 No, it's fine the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix.2386 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 i think u mean remove critical chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 > @"Tycura.1982" said: > Wouldn't that favor classes with the most built in mitigation? OwO what's this? "Notices class" couldn't be a biased stand point. I don't main warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycura.1982 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > @"Tycura.1982" said: > > Wouldn't that favor classes with the most built in mitigation? OwO what's this? "Notices class" couldn't be a biased stand point. > > I don't main warrior. Thief unless I miss my guess. No defensive stats would make Thief a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Give it a rest on these removing amulet threads already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 > @"ArthurDent.9538" said: > Give it a rest on these removing amulet threads already. No. The amulets don't make sense with a health tier system. The design is dumb. Probably 95% of the ogs who made this mess are gone and now it's time to make a decision. 1 health tier, or make the tiers meaningful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KryTiKaL.3125 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > @"ArthurDent.9538" said: > > Give it a rest on these removing amulet threads already. > > No. > > The amulets don't make sense with a health tier system. > > The design is dumb. > > Probably 95% of the ogs who made this mess are gone and now it's time to make a decision. > > 1 health tier, or make the tiers meaningful Why do people think the solution to things is just "**remove this from the game and it will be better!**" rather than explain why something might be problematic in the balance and then discuss potential solutions if their reasoning is valid? This forum has been chalked full of this repeated nonsense; "REMOVE MIRAGE" "REMOVE DEADEYE" "REMOVE FIREBRAND" "REMOVE SOULBEAST" "REMOVE STEALTH" "REMOVE RETALIATION" "REMOVE [iNSERT RUNE/SIGIL]" "REMOVE BARRIER" "REMOVE DOWNSTATE" "REMOVE SOLO/DUO QUEUE" (This one is actually valid **technically**, though honestly it has more to do with the fact that its the **only** fucking option in Ranked) "REMOVE WARCLAW" "REMOVE GLIDING" "REMOVE [iNSERT PvP/WvW MAP]" "REMOVE TELEPORTS" "REMOVE EVADES" "REMOVE REVEALED FROM MARKED" "REMOVE JUMPING" (Yes this was an actual thing that appeared on these forums) "REMOVE FEROCITY" "REMOVE CONDI CLEANSE" "REMOVE CONDI" "REMOVE ARROW CART" Thats just from **last year** in 2019 if memory serves, at least the ones that I can remember. If you have a problem with some mechanic, map, whatever it doesn't matter what, really you should at least **try** to explain the reasoning coherently, don't go on a salt filled tangent because you're frustrated, and if people challenge the reasoning or question it don't immediately start insulting them or insinuating that they just don't know what they are talking about and you have some sort of secret inside knowledge and expertise on how the game works. More often than not your problem is just fueled by your frustrations and you're not thinking clearly, as is evident by the immediate call to just entirely remove something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 meh, level all health tiers out at 15k and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTGuevara.9018 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 > @"KryTiKaL.3125" said: > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > @"ArthurDent.9538" said: > > > Give it a rest on these removing amulet threads already. > > > > No. > > > > The amulets don't make sense with a health tier system. > > > > The design is dumb. > > > > Probably 95% of the ogs who made this mess are gone and now it's time to make a decision. > > > > 1 health tier, or make the tiers meaningful > > Why do people think the solution to things is just "**remove this from the game and it will be better!**" rather than explain why something might be problematic in the balance and then discuss potential solutions if their reasoning is valid? > > This forum has been chalked full of this repeated nonsense; > > "REMOVE MIRAGE" > "REMOVE DEADEYE" > "REMOVE FIREBRAND" > "REMOVE SOULBEAST" > "REMOVE STEALTH" > "REMOVE RETALIATION" > "REMOVE [iNSERT RUNE/SIGIL]" > "REMOVE BARRIER" > "REMOVE DOWNSTATE" > "REMOVE SOLO/DUO QUEUE" (This one is actually valid **technically**, though honestly it has more to do with the fact that its the **only** kitten option in Ranked) > "REMOVE WARCLAW" > "REMOVE GLIDING" > "REMOVE [iNSERT PvP/WvW MAP]" > "REMOVE TELEPORTS" > "REMOVE EVADES" > "REMOVE REVEALED FROM MARKED" > "REMOVE JUMPING" (Yes this was an actual thing that appeared on these forums) > "REMOVE FEROCITY" > "REMOVE CONDI CLEANSE" > "REMOVE CONDI" > "REMOVE ARROW CART" > > Thats just from **last year** in 2019 if memory serves, at least the ones that I can remember. If you have a problem with some mechanic, map, whatever it doesn't matter what, really you should at least **try** to explain the reasoning coherently, don't go on a salt filled tangent because you're frustrated, and if people challenge the reasoning or question it don't immediately start insulting them or insinuating that they just don't know what they are talking about and you have some sort of secret inside knowledge and expertise on how the game works. More often than not your problem is just fueled by your frustrations and you're not thinking clearly, as is evident by the immediate call to just entirely remove something. Also, there are cases when removing things are most definitely necessary. To me, I call for the removal of things only if they negatively impact the overall game to the point when people collectively start to leave. But yes, any call for removals other than that are just plain ol' sour grapes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 > @"hotte in space.2158" said: > Yesterday he wrote > >Suggestion Remove 4 Stat Amulets from PvP > Today he wants > >Suggestion remove toughness and vitality from all gear pvp > What comes next ? > Can level of incompetence still be raised ? > Expecting next thread coming soon Can we remove PvP? We got WvW for a reason. Dont know what it is, but the game devs said there was one Let's respect that. Easier to balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > > @"hotte in space.2158" said: > > Yesterday he wrote > > >Suggestion Remove 4 Stat Amulets from PvP > > Today he wants > > >Suggestion remove toughness and vitality from all gear pvp > > What comes next ? > > Can level of incompetence still be raised ? > > Expecting next thread coming soon > > Can we remove PvP? > > We got WvW for a reason. > > Dont know what it is, but the game devs said there was one > > Let's respect that. > > Easier to balance. No, let's remove WvW. That is PVE + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Adding these stat to amulets while still giving way more than modest damage stats is a clear acknowledgement that the original design philosophy is fail. You got players saying here that this will remove the lowest tier classes from the game.... Why do you think that is? Big Brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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