Jthug.9506 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > @"Jthug.9506" said: > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > @"zaswer.5246" said: > > > > Dont take the second strike from imposible odds or revenant is going to be completely dead in pve > > > > > > It won't be. Alacrigade is support so high DPS isn't expected and they'll still have a place. The heal variant isn't affected. Condi ren has a build variant that uses shiro but it's not required. In open world it doesn't really matter but using Jalis is probably comparable. > > > > > > > > > > That's fine and all but I really want actual power rev dps to be a thing in raids at some point. It's fun as hell to play and I want it! > > That’ll require rev to have an actual power DPS elite spec. Why? it's not that far off, and with the ability to split skills from pve and competitive, it should be a simple matter of buffing some weapon coeffs in pve right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Jthug.9506" said: > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > @"Jthug.9506" said: > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > @"zaswer.5246" said: > > > > > Dont take the second strike from imposible odds or revenant is going to be completely dead in pve > > > > > > > > It won't be. Alacrigade is support so high DPS isn't expected and they'll still have a place. The heal variant isn't affected. Condi ren has a build variant that uses shiro but it's not required. In open world it doesn't really matter but using Jalis is probably comparable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's fine and all but I really want actual power rev dps to be a thing in raids at some point. It's fun as hell to play and I want it! > > > > That’ll require rev to have an actual power DPS elite spec. > > Why? it's not that far off, and with the ability to split skills from pve and competitive, it should be a simple matter of buffing some weapon coeffs in pve right? To distinguish itself from the existing builds. Any buffs that you add to buff power rev would likely transfer over to the other builds as well negating any benefit to do power rev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > @"Jthug.9506" said: > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > @"zaswer.5246" said: > > > > Dont take the second strike from imposible odds or revenant is going to be completely dead in pve > > > > > > It won't be. Alacrigade is support so high DPS isn't expected and they'll still have a place. The heal variant isn't affected. Condi ren has a build variant that uses shiro but it's not required. In open world it doesn't really matter but using Jalis is probably comparable. > > > > > > > > > > That's fine and all but I really want actual power rev dps to be a thing in raids at some point. It's fun as hell to play and I want it! > > That’ll require rev to have an actual power DPS elite spec. Yes, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jthug.9506 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I don't understand, you mean it would make alacrigade better?? so what it's awful weak sauce now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jthug.9506 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > @"Jthug.9506" said: > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > @"zaswer.5246" said: > > > > > Dont take the second strike from imposible odds or revenant is going to be completely dead in pve > > > > > > > > It won't be. Alacrigade is support so high DPS isn't expected and they'll still have a place. The heal variant isn't affected. Condi ren has a build variant that uses shiro but it's not required. In open world it doesn't really matter but using Jalis is probably comparable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's fine and all but I really want actual power rev dps to be a thing in raids at some point. It's fun as hell to play and I want it! > > > > That’ll require rev to have an actual power DPS elite spec. > > Yes, please. I mean isn't herald already kinda that with the upkeep damage and % damage on boons as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Jthug.9506" said: > I don't understand, you mean it would make alacrigade better?? so what it's awful weak sauce now. If you buff damage for rev, how would it not benefit alacrigade as well? Also what power DPS build do revs have as herald is more of a support elite spec. It feels cleaner to have an elite spec dedicated to power DPS so that it’s its own thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Jthug.9506" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > @"Jthug.9506" said: > > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > > @"zaswer.5246" said: > > > > > > Dont take the second strike from imposible odds or revenant is going to be completely dead in pve > > > > > > > > > > It won't be. Alacrigade is support so high DPS isn't expected and they'll still have a place. The heal variant isn't affected. Condi ren has a build variant that uses shiro but it's not required. In open world it doesn't really matter but using Jalis is probably comparable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's fine and all but I really want actual power rev dps to be a thing in raids at some point. It's fun as hell to play and I want it! > > > > > > That’ll require rev to have an actual power DPS elite spec. > > > > Yes, please. > > I mean isn't herald already kinda that with the upkeep damage and % damage on boons as well? Pretty much what @"Ayrilana.1396" just said about herald being designed as a boonshare support specc and wanting a more or less "selfish" power dps specc. It doesn't help that renegade currently does the "supporting" way better than herald (in PvE, not sure about PvP, but I doubt many play renegade there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jthug.9506 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Well agree to disagree I guess, I for one don't think it would be gamebreaking if alacragade did 32k dps instead of 28k or whatever it is now. I wouldn't mind a new elite spec with like GS or something that was more clearly defined as a power DPS spec, but god knows how long we will have to wait for something like that, if it ever happens at all. In the mean time would anyone really be sad to see the PVE coeffs on sword buffed a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobaniec.9561 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Aggressive Agility is a poor version of warrior sprint. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aggressive_Agility https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Warrior%27s_Sprint We dont even have many movement skills bc its all teleports. Come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jthug.9506 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Scoobaniec.9561" said: > Aggressive Agility is a poor version of warrior sprint. > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aggressive_Agility > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Warrior%27s_Sprint > > We dont even have many movement skills bc its all teleports. Come on. What movement skills do we even have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Jthug.9506" said: > > @"Scoobaniec.9561" said: > > Aggressive Agility is a poor version of warrior sprint. > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aggressive_Agility > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Warrior%27s_Sprint > > > > We dont even have many movement skills bc its all teleports. Come on. > > What movement skills do we even have? Teleports and leaps count for the trait, so these are affected by the trait: **Weapon Skills** Sword 3, 5 Axe 4 Mace 3 Staff 5 **Legends** Shiro: Phase Traversal Mallyx: Call to Anguish Hammer 3, even though technically a leap, doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jthug.9506 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 so hammer 3 would work too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Jthug.9506" said: > so hammer 3 would work too? I edited a bit too late, sadly it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackmonster.2790 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Should never have been a bow elite, but should have been a scepter elite for thematic fit. GS power elite also bad idea, not that i don't want GS but like every damn build is using GS for power like everyone is the same, let the hammer be the rev thing or fix coefficients so there is something else to scale power damage on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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