Terrorhuz.4695

> @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > What's the math on this? How much better is it than just having alacrity? > > > 50% stronger but 33% less duration. How much "gain" is that? > > > > Quick math under a 10 second timespan > > **NORMAL CONDITIONS**: 10s of waiting will give you 10s of recharge > > **WITH ALACRITY**: Apply 10s of alacrity. 10s of waiting will give you 10s of recharge. Add 30% because alacrity. At the end of the day, you waited 10 seconds to get 13.3s of recharge. > > **IMPROVED ALACRITY**: Applying 10s of alacrity will grant you 6.66667s of alacrity. You get 10s of recharge + 6.6s of alacrity * 0,5 => 13.3s of recharge when the 10s end > > > > So, improved alacrity won't really have any mathematical improvement. Unless you overcap it, 10s of alacrity will always grant you 3.3s of bonus recharge on top of everything you already have. > > However, the recharge is more "explosive"; on tight rotations, you will be able to use your skills faster (imagine you're almost dead; activating the healing skill 2s earlier will make the difference), which on its own is already a net gain. > > Interesting! > > How does that translate to something like WvW where you don't have 100% upkeep on Alacrity? Does this mean Improved alacrity has no impact there? **EDIT: EVERYTHING I'VE SAID HERE IS WRONG** Unless you overcap boon duration, improved alacrity is always mathematically equivalent to normal alacrity; the choice is just whether or not you get the same boost right now or a bit later -and "right now" is always a good choice: you need the healing now, you need the phantasm now, you need the block now. So improved alacrity is always a good choice.

> @"Veprovina.4876" said: > What's the math on this? How much better is it than just having alacrity? > 50% stronger but 33% less duration. How much "gain" is that? **EDIT: EVERYTHING I'VE SAID HERE IS WRONG** Quick math under a 10 second timespan **NORMAL CONDITIONS**: 10s of waiting will give you 10s of recharge **WITH ALACRITY**: Apply 10s of alacrity. 10s of waiting will give you 10s of recharge. Add 30% because alacrity. At the end of the day, you waited 10 seconds to get 13.3s of recharge. **IMPROVED ALACRITY**: Applying 10s of alacrity will grant you 6.66667s of alacrity. You get 10s of recharge + 6.6s of alacrity * 0,5 => 13.3s of recharge when the 10s end So, improved alacrity won't really have any mathematical improvement. Unless you overcap it, 10s of alacrity will always grant you 3.3s of bonus recharge on top of everything you already have. However, the recharge is more "explosive"; on tight rotations, you will be able to use your skills faster (imagine you're almost dead; activating the healing skill 2s earlier will make the difference), which on its own is already a net gain.

> @"Kirrund.2654" said: > Here's the most recent one I saw that someone posted on reddit. > This legit pissed me off big time

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > i think it should be clarified: burn guard in team fights is absolutely op, but not in 2v2 or 1v1. I can see burn guard being absolutely cancer in 2v2 and 3v3 due to the tight spaces of the maps tbh

> @"FrownyClown.8402" said: > Even if they communicated the forums would be filled with rage. Why bother trying to please a community that cant be pleased? In doubt, don't try it anyway, just to be sure to piss everyone off. But I liked this last balance patch, it was honestly so good I still can't believe CmC made it.

> Was that nerf really necessary? NOOOO MY AUTOATTACK DOESN'T DEAL 3K AOE OR WHATEVER THAT WAS AT 900 RANGE ANYMORE :( :( :( :( :(

As I've said in the past, the only problem with immobilize on ranger is that jaracanda is a 9s immobilize with 20s cooldown, which makes absolutely no sense.

> @"Ohimi.4107" said: > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > @"Ohimi.4107" said: > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > I absolutely support this whole patch. Thief got a honestly overdue shave, engi got some shaves to grenades without overdoing it (unlike what usually happens); they are still very strong and could use some further reduction, but they didn't get destroyed. Some more revenant shaves would have been cool but honestly they are far from a priority. > > > > > > Disagree with you on the further nerfs > > > > Ok but explain about what and why, don't leave me hanging like this. > > The build is still good but not oppresive , it does enough dmg to be good but was nerfed enough to not be OP, if you called for a nerf to flashbang on the other hand... Explosive entrance needs to have the blindless removed, as for everything else I think the damage on holo should be fine right now. It could even use some slight buffs to holo utilities (the ones everybody drops in favor of the core ones)

> @"DoomNexus.5324" said: > So if you cast even 1 IA now, you don't even have enough to pull of a stealth combo so you have to wait for the missing initiative regenerated. > This means you either have to slow down entering combat A LOT because you have to stand around waiting or you have to skip IA entirely.. Where's the negative side?

I honestly couldn't be happier. Grenade spam is gone, thieves now have to do something for a living other than just spamming shadow shot. Living the dream.

The build is absolutely braindead. Don't think it's broken nor it deserves any nerf, but the cleaving potential it has on downed people is funny. You basically skip downstate.

> @"Ohimi.4107" said: > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > I absolutely support this whole patch. Thief got a honestly overdue shave, engi got some shaves to grenades without overdoing it (unlike what usually happens); they are still very strong and could use some further reduction, but they didn't get destroyed. Some more revenant shaves would have been cool but honestly they are far from a priority. > > Disagree with you on the further nerfs Ok but explain about what and why, don't leave me hanging like this.

> @"Anomaly.7612" said: > > @"Quadox.7834" said: > > ppl gotta understand that the main reason thief has been a mes counter isnt just plasma its bcs: > > 1. thief gets open > > 2. mes tries to attack back > > 3. thief dodges/ports away and resets b4 mes can get out its slow dmg > > 4. mes has bad resustain (on meta builds) so cant reset quickly so thief doesnt need to keep up consistent pressure > > 5. theif gets another open > > 6. repeat > > deadeye and sd are the best examples of this, dp is more managable > > and the reason good condi mirage can kill thief is because it does super quick counterattack (sw3 +jaunt + f2) and has some aoe pressure (axe 2), unlike something like mirror blade + mindwrack or trying to summon a phantasmal berserker > > Big true. As well as the ability to stay in stealth long enough that clones stand there like a confused John Travolta and become useless. > > Or the phantasm that I summoned 15 minutes ago just gets tired of being catfished by a jerk who disappeared god knows where (but I know it's here, there's the smoke) and either attacks some random guy or flat out disappears lmao Also rupting stealth of thief is one of the most useless things you can do. You still can't deal meaningful damage from distance and the man can just heartseeker again; unless you run pistol there's no way to actually stop a thief from stealthing

> @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > I absolutely support this whole patch. Thief got a honestly overdue shave, engi got some shaves to grenades without overdoing it (unlike what usually happens); they are still very strong and could use some further reduction, but they didn't get destroyed. Some more revenant shaves would have been cool but honestly they are far from a priority. > > Oh they *completely* overdid grenade nerfs. Grenade kit is now trash, Holo will be fine without it, but core Engineer is not unplayable since Grenades suck. This patch is garbage. ... I mean, core engi was unplayable already well before this balance patch. It's been weeks since I've last seen one. The problems with core engi are much deeper than anything grenade kit could ever possibly do.

I absolutely support this whole patch. Thief got a honestly overdue shave, engi got some shaves to grenades without overdoing it (unlike what usually happens); they are still very strong and could use some further reduction, but they didn't get destroyed. Some more revenant shaves would have been cool but honestly they are far from a priority.

> @"Yasai.3549" said: > Hear me out guys : > > Revert Ini cost of Infiltrator's Arrow. > BUT > Make it no longer usable to scale up cliff-faces. > > :^) I honestly think they should have left IA cost the same initiative as it did before this patch, but the range should be reduced to 600 if used while in combat. Not sure if that's even possible with the current code, but I said what I said.

> @"UNOwen.7132" said: > (Thief is actually one of the worst classes at dealing with conditions, why do you think they have to run *2* condi clear utilities). I must have missed every dodge removing chilled\cripple\immobilize, a cleanse whenever you evade an attack -with 3 dodges it tends to happen fairly often-, healing skills with either dodge or stealth + cleanse, shadowstep cleansing 3 condis (+1 if traited), signet of agility cleansing 3 condis, and after all that sit just sit in perma stealth to wait for the condis to expire if you managed to get hit by anything even after all of that

Can't hear you, won't hear you, I'm listening to the cries of a hundred thousand thiefs carried by plasma being yeeted back to the dust

> @"Paradoxoglanis.1904" said: > 1. Great sportsmanship. They never troll, bm, or rage quit. > 2. Plays meta builds. They are slow and predictable, but they try to pull their weight by playing builds that complement their playstyle. > 3. Never farms kills. Their rotations may be a bit wack, but they are playing the objectives despite their limited intelligence. > > In 3v3 during the mirage bot explosion bots performed better than a good 60% of the playerbase. And I'd like to note, during those matches the bots were far more useful to the team than the "report" button I tried to use to get rid of them

> @"XenesisII.1540" said: > > @"otto.5684" said: > > But that leaves mirage where exactly, in the trash bin? And the funny thing is CMC admitted as much, so... is fixing that a 3 year task? > > Well for pvp anyways, they still have their 2 dodges in pve. He admitted the change might have been heavy handed, and it's obvious he just wanted to wash his hand clean of the problem. Took them like what 7 months to unscrew the chrono no clone no shatter change?, we're passed that for the mirage screwup, they probably won't even bother with changes to the spec anymore, not when they have an expansion and probably new spec on the way to replace it, one I'm sure they'll happily nuke again. > Chrono is still in the garbage lmao

> @"Kuma.1503" said: > Want an easy win vs Zoo necro? Try these builds: > > * Glass GS guard > * Spite Reaper > * Power Scrapper > * Ranger... Just Ranger > > First two blend minions to mincemeat in 1 or 2 skills, leaving the necro defenseless. Power scrapper gets barrier for days vs minionmancers, and you can blind minions with Flash Shell if running Mortar. Ranger counters necro in general. Immob Druid, Core LB/GS, Sic Em Sniper, take your pick. > > GS Guard is my personal recommendation, purely for its fun factor. I run Radiance, Zeal, Virtues. If it has a dps modifier, I take it. Slap on zerker amulet + speed runes, run Retreat, and run around like a madman killing people with one spin. Necros are the best targets for you to bully because they think they're safe with their two health bars. > > **They're not safe.** Power shatter mesmer. It only works against necromancers nowadays, but BOI IT WORKS

ITT: people act like there isn't such a concept as "squad". Like, there's only the dragonhunter and nothing else. It's not like this game is riddled with jaracandas who can root for 9s every 20s :)

> @"noiwk.2760" said: > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > Even after nerfing Enhanced Capacity Storage Unit holosmiths still stack 25 stacks of might like nothing, if that doesn't say something about how broken the spec is IDK what does. > > > > About thief, this week I tried having some duels for fun with this class. I was playing thief for the first time, and yet I have been able to kill 3 of my guild mates (warrior, burn dh, chronomancer) without ever being in danger. I made every mistake that could be possibly made, but there was no way to capitalize on any of them just because of the perma blind + stealth spam; you open with 4k\5k damage whatever you do, sooner or later someone will drop below 50%. It took quite a while to get it done, but it's a guaranteed victory unless you do some real major mistake. > > a good daredevil can do 20k in like 2-3 seconds? while constantly ccing you and what not.. A bad daredevil will just jump back and forth, blind and stealth until you either drop dead or he gets bored of tiptapping around and find something else to do. The problem is not "how much good players can make out of thief", the problem is how forgiving the class is whenever you make any mistake.

Even after nerfing Enhanced Capacity Storage Unit holosmiths still stack 25 stacks of might like nothing, if that doesn't say something about how broken the spec is IDK what does. About thief, this week I tried having some duels for fun with this class. I was playing thief for the first time, and yet I have been able to kill 3 of my guild mates (warrior, burn dh, chronomancer) without ever being in danger. I made every mistake that could be possibly made, but there was no way to capitalize on any of them just because of the perma blind + stealth spam; you open with 4k\5k damage whatever you do, sooner or later someone will drop below 50%. It took quite a while to get it done, but it's a guaranteed victory unless you do some real major mistake.

I'd say yes, but honestly after walking 100 metres in the shoes of a thief I only despised the class even more than I already did