LetoII.3782

> @"JusticeRetroHunter.7684" said:

> > @"Anput.4620" said:

> > So given equal skill you say that the larger group can't capitalise on it more?

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> Precisely because, the more targets that stack for a Rez, the more targets become susceptible to cleave damage because they have to bunch together. Like I said earlier, this is what makes 1v8’s on reaper possible, which I have repeatedly been successful at accomplishing.

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> The same applies in the opposing direction. The more players I have that can cleave enemy downstates the more advantageous it is for my numbers to dominate theirs...especially when they ball up for a resurrection.

Not sure how you circumvent the 5 person AoE cap, but k

> @"Dawdler.8521" said:

> > @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > > @"DemonSeed.3528" said:

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> > > What mouse are you guys using?

> >

> > Track ball and foot pedals

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> > It's not my settings, it doesn't happen every time. Happens about as frequently as seeing someone else's warclaw turn into a Saturn v

> See, thats the problem. You need to use a steering wheel for the mount and TrackIR for the camera.

>

Nah, my power glove is using the only serial port

If you have to ask, the answer isn't Magumma

Isn't a yakband that thing they put on morbidly obese people's stomach?

There's already a leopard skin for warclaw.

So that with a guild emblem somewhere.. Probably on those awkward shoulder joints leftover from the griffon reskin they covered up with a rondel on everything so far.

> @"Dawdler.8521" said:

> > @"DragonSlayer.1087" said:

> > > @"Dawdler.8521" said:

> > > > @"DragonSlayer.1087" said:

> > > > Lol thanks for the future death of smokescreen and malicious backstab. ???. I like how you already nerf it extra and you haven’t even implemented the patch.

> > > >

> > > > Cheesy permastealth is not even that significant to fight with. Yes they are annoying but they dont do any significant damage to heavy armors or tanky builds. Its only effective against full zerk medium/light armor glass builds.

> > > If there are other builds far more effective than permastealth thieves, nerfing permastealth isnt really a problem is it? Glad we got that cleared up.

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> > You just contradicted yourself. “It’s not good, so lets destroy it.”

> Thats not a contradiction. Anet has already done it to other classes. So its normal.

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Tis always the off-meta build which pays the harshest toll for it's OP cousin.

> @"DemonSeed.3528" said:

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> What mouse are you guys using?

Track ball and foot pedals

It's not my settings, it doesn't happen every time. Happens about as frequently as seeing someone else's warclaw turn into a Saturn v

Yeah mine constantly wants me to make a right turn when I mount. Been like that since release

> @"Strider Pj.2193" said:

> > @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said:

> > > @"Strider Pj.2193" said:

> > > > @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said:

> > > > > @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > > > > > @"RisenHowl.2419" said:

> > > > > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> > > > > > > double cele radiance fb's gogogo

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man....

> > > > >

> > > > > Agreed

> > > > > The temptation is always there to diversify, but it doesn't scale 1:1. When you try to get a little bit better with a secondary role you end up A LOT worse in your main role.

> > > >

> > > > Shhhh. Everything should be cele with stars sigil and runes. Dye armor in rainbow formation, and wiggle your arms in combat all the while shrieking with a high pitch. This display will strike fear into the heart of most enemies.

> > > >

> > > > D:

> > >

> > > Wait... are you on TC?

> >

> > I can only confirm that at least 2 people in this quote chain have ever graced the Holy Lands of the Tarnished Coast.

> >

> > D:

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> Make it three...

Four o/

But only with protest

> @"RisenHowl.2419" said:

> > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> > double cele radiance fb's gogogo

>

> There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man....

Agreed

The temptation is always there to diversify, but it doesn't scale 1:1. When you try to get a little bit better with a secondary role you end up A LOT worse in your main role.

Has Anet _ever_ been on the guardian subsection?

I don't believe so

Back to double guardian.

Or, everyone _wishing_ that many people would be their stabo bots.. But not them, somebody else.

> @"SWI.4127" said:

> It already does way more damage than any other class if used properly.

You mean because the burning isn't AoE capped like a players? Arcdps really needs to have a few tests before it's able to be downloaded.

> @"Kontrolle.3514" said:

> > @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > Near 12 pages of nerf them, mines' fine.

> > I don't know how anyone could offer valid input on such a massive shift..

> > But here's mine: Dwarf Stance, Barrier, Firebrand tomes offering 8x the support of the original guardian. Can we really go back to the original damage output but leave contemporary mitigation in place without the blob becoming immortal?

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> jes people will still die, because there are things called cooldowns. And Fiebrand tomes have very high cooldowns.

Been a long time since you played vanilla guard, eh?

Mag is full, never has pins and hates bandwagoners.

> @"XenesisII.1540" said:

> Same boat, SoS NA is ..., and reset was terrible, not sure why their overnight is propping them up so much to stay in T1.

> I do have an account on AR as well, but well don't have an engineer which I'm mostly playing these days or my guild there, transfer, make solo eng, not play for 2 months, what do... what do...

>

SoS being ocx centric isn't exactly a new thing

Near 12 pages of nerf them, mines' fine.

I don't know how anyone could offer valid input on such a massive shift..

But here's mine: Dwarf Stance, Barrier, Firebrand tomes offering 8x the support of the original guardian. Can we really go back to the original damage output but leave contemporary mitigation in place without the blob becoming immortal?

I'm so perfect I add an intentional grace note like Mozart

Sky is falling Sky is falling

> @"Justine.6351" said:

> It wont die,

> It will just be trash players facetanking each other for 60 seconds.

Agreed.

2 dudes tickling each other with wet noodles

Happy 2 year anniversary!

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> @"ArchonWing.9480" said:

> While I do think the gating of the warclaw is garbage, I have helped multiple people get their warclaws, with some being completely new to wvw so.... no, not impossible. Just need more awareness.

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> Though they'll have a better time playing something like a warrior which has good durability and mobility while also being very welcome in zergs. Engineer is also decent and doesn't require getting Holo though it'd still be nice.

>

> > @"XenesisII.1540" said:

> > > @"gloflop.3510" said:

> > > > @"XenesisII.1540" said:

> > > > (...) but they created a barrier to wvw and in the process hurt new or pve players more than vet wvw players (...)

> > >

> > > This piece of a sentence is in my eyes the key of the problem. The suggestions coming up here are more or less all work-arounds. We need to get the problem solved not the symptoms.

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> > All vets had to go through the same process of obtaining the warclaw, the only difference is our knowledge/experience we were already using "work-arounds" to move around the map long before warclaws were a thing, new and pve players don't have that advantage, but we are offering that now in this thread and others that have come before it. Want the mount, put in the work, everyone else did.

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> What work? I put 80 potions in to instantly finish the reward track when it came out. It's nothing to be proud of, and I wouldn't be bothered at all if they removed it.

Very much agree.

We knew weeks in advance it was coming, and if you logged in within the first few weeks of warclaw release you'd have a ktrain of PvE'rs getting their mount. Took most of a month to get back to business as usual. With all the leveling, equipment acquisition and just plain lack of skill a newbie is _already_ facing, being left in the dust is downright shitty

> @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > @"Chaba.5410" said:

> > > @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > > > @"Chaba.5410" said:

> > > > We got mount stomps so current downstate is ok.

> > >

> > > In smallscale favors the bigger group, that still has someone mounted, waiting for downs to stomp.

> >

> > Why do you assume that it is only the bigger group with someone mounted? The mount stomp has been a boon for the smaller group. It lets them chip away at numbers faster and less need to sustain after an initial bomb so as not to have the downs rally off your own players who take more damage from bigger groups.

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> edit: now that i thought about it under the shower, the difference is actually if you fight open field, or inside an objective

> in the open field mount stomp will give the bigger group even more of an advantage, because of already mentioned reasons.

I would argue the exact opposite.

The smaller group cannot stand it's ground, the blob can always finish downstates by standing on them. Same goes for a res, once a friendly downstate is inside the boonball, the chance of stomping is near zero.

Mount stomp offers a chance to circumvent all the second chances a blob gets, while doing nothing to the smaller group that wasn't going to happen anyways.

The mods step in when someone tattles.