LetoII.3782

One full matchup

War Machine was a Korean guild and they most definitely didn't bring kaining to t1. That's a downright silly claim. They transfered there to protest WvW only having 2 maps. I remember Jang Gun making that post well.

And not knowing who TW was, then, kinda proves my point. You weren't there. They transfered to NA to fight us.

Are you doing this intentionally xD

> @"RisenHowl.2419" said:

> It doesn't really matter if they cater to organized groups at this point. There's what, like 15 guilds total for NA that run regularly with 20+ people? With the lag being this bad skillful play goes out the window and the groups that win just have more people that can press 1.

It's not the people pressing 1 though, it's the boons and condis bogging down the system. You can have a full map and things are fine, but the moment a meta blob gets on...

> @"lare.5129" said:

> ok, I put my vision too:

> > @"Ahnlok.3897" said:

> > Today Anet's stream on Twitch,

> I don't look twitch at all, it too much lag my pc.

> there is no lag on wvw, use good cable connection, check pc, and **settings. **On my low pc I have lag on Twitch, but on same pc I play wvw wihtout lag.

Ok. But what if you don't have a potato, can stream twitch AND play any other resource intensive game without your PC breaking a sweat, but during primetime you get ping spikes up into the 3k's?

Maybe there's just not lag in your match or timezone.

>

> > But Anet, please there are still many people have hope for you guys to bring back the "Golden Days" of WvW few years back.

> this "Golden Days", as I think, only in some people head. wvw nice today. Ofc me to much people, but it is still playable.

>

>

This I agree with, viewing the past through rose colored glasses is pretty endemic in Human society. Most people tend to think of the days when their class was OP as the good time and nothing more.

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> whatever your stance is, RG did some things that few others pulled off. I don't care if they were uplevels, 20v80 is impressive.

See that's another thing entirely. The 5 player AoE cap was _only_ for damage early on. If you stacked a bunch of healers in one spot they were unkillable. At the time few knew that, fewer still understood the full implications of what that did to gameplay. The people that did know it at barely 2 months into the game had been in the beta. RG was so early on that most people were still waiting to unlock their elite skill and dressed in blues and yellos

> @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > > @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > > > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > > > > @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > > > > > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > > > > > > @"enkidu.5937" said:

> > > > > > > > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > > > > > > > looks like something similar from one type here..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ian-Boyd-on-WvWvWing-in-Guild-Wars-2/page/1#post1963445

> > > > > > > > ^^ love the amoeba deflection :3

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sadly, ppl always want to tail the dragon these days, and thus cause a yolo clash of herds of sheep instead.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > maybe there are more tips other than that. just scour the archives..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > anyway, Sacrx.6721 of Red Guard and the first ever Ultimate Dominator in both of the server combined even commented on that thread, but not that srs. But it's notable coz Red Guard of EU server was the most epic then and top NA guilds back then was not even in their level, imho. They even transferred server at times to challenge and GvG the top NA guilds.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and just youtube their videos (i hope there's still some) and listen how he commanded, lelz.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They got polished up on tactics in beta and dominated before most people even finished leveling and gearing. They've been gone for 20x as long as they played... It's long since time to stop idolizing sacrx, he's using the same tactic right now to grab an early lead in Camelot Unchained but this time it's backfired lol.

> > > > > > Tl;dr: sacrx is king of a game that will never launch.

> > > > >

> > > > > compared to the most Ultimate Dominators now who got the title by going to Obsidian Sanctum, tagging hits vs the other server's blob and that blob mass suicided by jumping from high ground repeatedly and which that they obviously paid, Sacrx.6721 got his title legitly.

> > > > >

> > > > > and y so bitter when i just stated the facts. you doing that is like you saying that the pioneers of the internet don't matter now.

> > > > >

> > > > > lelz.

> > > >

> > > > Having Ultimate Dominator is a mathematical eventuality.

> > > > I downplay his method of playing games because it's idiotic. Red Guard played the game A LOT before it launched. When it was buggy, when it was terribly balanced, when it wasn't ready for consumption... Just to get a head start. So they got to be veterans in a land filled with newbies and impressed people like you. But they were also bored and quit before the game had been live for a year and basically missed _everything_.

> > > > And for what? So the uninformed can toot their horns in a game they will never see again because they're off to get gud at the next half-made game.

> > >

> > > yeah i give you that. Red Guard quit prematurely. But it's not undeniable when they were in the field, they were the best and thinking otherwise, again, is sign of bitterness.

> > >

> > > they are not in the game anymore and you're still bitter? why?

> >

> > Bitter is your word.

> >

> > They won some early gvg's. They had a massive head start. They quit before the general population caught up.

> >

> > Those are three facts I throw out as a public service when I see them brought up because there's still lots of players that treat them like legends. It's been seven years since they played, enough already. They'd be the noobs if they came back now.

>

> Blah

Son, I was in Tempest Wolves (ranked #1na) at the time. I literally GvG'd Red Guard. I might be the only person on this board besides my wife who did.

_I_ tell _you_ how it was

> @"Valelutra.9128" said:

> maybe alliances will come out at the same time that they actually address the lag issues?

Seems certain at this point

> @"Ghostof Luzifer.6159" said:

> > @"Kylden Ar.3724" said:

> > We all know we won't get Alliances until they figure out how to monetize it like they did build templates. They make too much on gems for guild bandwagon transfers.

>

> If that is the actual reason alliances arent released yet it would be very bad/dumb management. Keep your gamemode kitten without improvements too save a declining cash flow. They need to invest into the game make it better to draw more people in if they want to make money of it.

Economics 101: Invest in ventures with a possibility of return. Will _enough_ people return to repay all the work? The current system turns a profit with zero investment.

> If they just want to milk the game until its dry using said revenue stream why announce alliances in the first place?

Economics 102: Words are cheap. Consumer engagement is precious.

> Other features to keep the community interessted wouldnt have brought them into the dillemma of loosing that revenue stream.

>

Economics 103: Avoid risk. Would the new investment actually produce a better return? Or, would letting everyone from sea and ocx be on one team not fix anything at all?

> on the otherhand it is kitten stupid to stop communication about such a fundamental feature and it certainly seems anet wants the community to slowly forget about it. So maybe the people at anet that make decisions arent very smart and you are right...

Economics 104: Listen to your accountants. If you hire experts to count your beans, and they say save beans, don't listen to Cowboy Jim when he says go spending. NCsoft is a successful corporation. Mark Jacobs tries to promise and deliver everything and goes down in flames.

Not saying it's right, but this is how the world turns -_-

You couldn't leave your hamster ball without the assistance of the true master race.

Dragon banners are one of the few anti blobbing tools in the game.

Taste real AoE for a moment and remember the 5 player cap is a flaw in gw2's engine that won't be in the next game you play.

SAB box o' fun that turns us all into the good little consumer monkeys we are in our heart of hearts

> @"Junkpile.7439" said:

> Well at least good old days there were some competition and guilds didn't outnumber pugs like these days. B)

In NA we had at least four guilds that could queue a map by themselves.. I say at least because I only met the ones that made it to t1.

> @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > > @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > > > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > > > > @"enkidu.5937" said:

> > > > > > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > > > > > looks like something similar from one type here..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ian-Boyd-on-WvWvWing-in-Guild-Wars-2/page/1#post1963445

> > > > > > ^^ love the amoeba deflection :3

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sadly, ppl always want to tail the dragon these days, and thus cause a yolo clash of herds of sheep instead.

> > > > >

> > > > > maybe there are more tips other than that. just scour the archives..

> > > > >

> > > > > anyway, Sacrx.6721 of Red Guard and the first ever Ultimate Dominator in both of the server combined even commented on that thread, but not that srs. But it's notable coz Red Guard of EU server was the most epic then and top NA guilds back then was not even in their level, imho. They even transferred server at times to challenge and GvG the top NA guilds.

> > > > >

> > > > > and just youtube their videos (i hope there's still some) and listen how he commanded, lelz.

> > > >

> > > > They got polished up on tactics in beta and dominated before most people even finished leveling and gearing. They've been gone for 20x as long as they played... It's long since time to stop idolizing sacrx, he's using the same tactic right now to grab an early lead in Camelot Unchained but this time it's backfired lol.

> > > > Tl;dr: sacrx is king of a game that will never launch.

> > >

> > > compared to the most Ultimate Dominators now who got the title by going to Obsidian Sanctum, tagging hits vs the other server's blob and that blob mass suicided by jumping from high ground repeatedly and which that they obviously paid, Sacrx.6721 got his title legitly.

> > >

> > > and y so bitter when i just stated the facts. you doing that is like you saying that the pioneers of the internet don't matter now.

> > >

> > > lelz.

> >

> > Having Ultimate Dominator is a mathematical eventuality.

> > I downplay his method of playing games because it's idiotic. Red Guard played the game A LOT before it launched. When it was buggy, when it was terribly balanced, when it wasn't ready for consumption... Just to get a head start. So they got to be veterans in a land filled with newbies and impressed people like you. But they were also bored and quit before the game had been live for a year and basically missed _everything_.

> > And for what? So the uninformed can toot their horns in a game they will never see again because they're off to get gud at the next half-made game.

>

> yeah i give you that. Red Guard quit prematurely. But it's not undeniable when they were in the field, they were the best and thinking otherwise, again, is sign of bitterness.

>

> they are not in the game anymore and you're still bitter? why?

Bitter is your word.

They won some early gvg's. They had a massive head start. They quit before the general population caught up.

Those are three facts I throw out as a public service when I see them brought up because there's still lots of players that treat them like legends. It's been seven years since they played, enough already. They'd be the noobs if they came back now.

> @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > @"LetoII.3782" said:

> > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > > @"enkidu.5937" said:

> > > > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > > > looks like something similar from one type here..

> > > > >

> > > > > https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ian-Boyd-on-WvWvWing-in-Guild-Wars-2/page/1#post1963445

> > > > ^^ love the amoeba deflection :3

> > > >

> > > > Sadly, ppl always want to tail the dragon these days, and thus cause a yolo clash of herds of sheep instead.

> > >

> > > maybe there are more tips other than that. just scour the archives..

> > >

> > > anyway, Sacrx.6721 of Red Guard and the first ever Ultimate Dominator in both of the server combined even commented on that thread, but not that srs. But it's notable coz Red Guard of EU server was the most epic then and top NA guilds back then was not even in their level, imho. They even transferred server at times to challenge and GvG the top NA guilds.

> > >

> > > and just youtube their videos (i hope there's still some) and listen how he commanded, lelz.

> >

> > They got polished up on tactics in beta and dominated before most people even finished leveling and gearing. They've been gone for 20x as long as they played... It's long since time to stop idolizing sacrx, he's using the same tactic right now to grab an early lead in Camelot Unchained but this time it's backfired lol.

> > Tl;dr: sacrx is king of a game that will never launch.

>

> compared to the most Ultimate Dominators now who got the title by going to Obsidian Sanctum, tagging hits vs the other server's blob and that blob mass suicided by jumping from high ground repeatedly and which that they obviously paid, Sacrx.6721 got his title legitly.

>

> and y so bitter when i just stated the facts. you doing that is like you saying that the pioneers of the internet don't matter now.

>

> lelz.

Having Ultimate Dominator is a mathematical eventuality.

I downplay his method of playing games because it's idiotic. Red Guard played the game A LOT before it launched. When it was buggy, when it was terribly balanced, when it wasn't ready for consumption... Just to get a head start. So they got to be veterans in a land filled with newbies and impressed people like you. But they were also bored and quit before the game had been live for a year and basically missed _everything_.

And for what? So the uninformed can toot their horns in a game they will never see again because they're off to get gud at the next half-made game.

> @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > @"enkidu.5937" said:

> > > @"HAsAsIN.6724" said:

> > > looks like something similar from one type here..

> > >

> > > https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ian-Boyd-on-WvWvWing-in-Guild-Wars-2/page/1#post1963445

> > ^^ love the amoeba deflection :3

> >

> > Sadly, ppl always want to tail the dragon these days, and thus cause a yolo clash of herds of sheep instead.

>

> maybe there are more tips other than that. just scour the archives..

>

> anyway, Sacrx.6721 of Red Guard and the first ever Ultimate Dominator in both of the server combined even commented on that thread, but not that srs. But it's notable coz Red Guard of EU server was the most epic then and top NA guilds back then was not even in their level, imho. They even transferred server at times to challenge and GvG the top NA guilds.

>

> and just youtube their videos (i hope there's still some) and listen how he commanded, lelz.

They got polished up on tactics in beta and dominated before most people even finished leveling and gearing. They've been gone for 20x as long as they played... It's long since time to stop idolizing sacrx, he's using the same tactic right now to grab an early lead in Camelot Unchained but this time it's backfired lol.

Tl;dr: sacrx is king of a game that will never launch.

Not enough visual clutter yet, that's what I say

> @"Strider Pj.2193" said:

> Ahhh... so because someone doesn’t come out to play, you feel like they should be punished?

Don't make them do something we might all regret...

Just login for the love of pete

Anet LOVES when lots of people transfer around.

You guys are confused.

Making me fight when I only want to get nestled into the safety of my omniblob is griefing. This game is about me and my 79 servermates chasing you solo not me fighting you where you have a chance of not losing.

Yeah I'm totally buying the idea that WvW is a charity project that brings in no bacon

> @"Twilight Tempest.7584" said:

> > @"Strider Pj.2193" said:

> > > @"BolkovonHarnfeldt.1372" said

> > > That is a lot of words for saying "I want my dailies done quickly."

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I tried to believe it was more.

>

> You guys are bullies in game and on the forum. :sigh:

There's a retreat feature?

O.o

> @"Whiteout.1975" said:

>

> Perhaps I have an oversight, have forgotten, or just outright cannot relate. Either way, I am curious.

> @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said:

> No but I can update you on my progress in WvW. Does that count?

>

> D:

Well..

How goes it then?

> @"SpellOfIniquity.1780" said:

> And this is why they used to refuse to tell us anything. Because if they didn't/couldn't deliver on something people would throw a fit.

>

> Keep throwing a tantrum about it and before you know it they won't be telling us anything again.

That's a nice way of saying they're used to disappointing us and we're used to being disappointed. People have been blaming players for lack of content delivery since day one. Are we to kiss posterior no matter what? Is there a point where voicing of displeasure is allowed?