Diak Atoli.2085

> @"Linken.6345" said:

> > @"ChronosCosmos.9450" said:

> > > @"Ayakaru.6583" said:

> > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

> > > > Go play raids if you want challenge.

> > >

> > > I already am, but I got into this game for the story.

> > > I played GW1 and GW2 because it has an amazing world, with amazing villains. And if you played GW1 you will know what I

> > > mean when I say how dumbed down GW2 has become.

> > >

> > > At this point it has nothing to do with 'wanting challenge' anymore. But the most basic respect we're supposed to have for our villains.

> > > Instead, our characters are just gods who can even taunt the actual gods at this point.

> >

> > Yeah, I feel you. GW1's story and characters were phenomenal. Shiro, Lich, Togo, Abbaddon, the 5 gods, Zaishen, and Heralds. Amazing. Eye of the north and the heroes had amazing backgrounds too.

> >

>

> it was 6 gods in gw1 wasent it?

Yes and no. There were the five known and worshipped Gods, and then Abaddon who was sealed. It's only after Nightfall that Humanity started to worship the 'Six.'

By the races combined... I AM CAPTAIN TYRIA!

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

> @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

> > @"lokh.2695" said:

> > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

> > > There's a hyper intelligent singular Skritt in metrica province, check the survivor camp, it is a side effect of the Thaumanova reactor explosion. Playable Skritt could easily use a similar justification.

> >

> > So the 500'000+ skritt characters have all been the sole survivors of some magical freak accident?

>

> Not "sole survivors" but survivors of a freak magical accident that built a society would work.

>

> Besides from a story perspective we're already the "only" commander.

Or the descendants of such a sole survivor. How rapidly can skritt generations breed?

Runes of the Ice, though I run a shout-based Reaper.

No.

\15charrsonachair

> @"acelara orion.4210" said:

> > @"Trise.2865" said:

> > So get started! I expect your code on their desk by Monday.

>

> hmm i paid them to write the code lol.

You've already received what you paid for, though. Now you're asking for more, which means you have to pay more. ;)

> @"nekretaal.6485" said:

> Whichever Dev is working on Guardian, can we get this guy to work on Necromancer?

>

> Necromancer has always badly needed reworks to core skills. Focus 4 is just the worst offender, requiring facing when cast, facing when it hits, a non moving enemy, and an adjacent ally or enemy in order to work. Staff skills, offhand dagger skills, axe 1, all need work.

>

> The guy working on Guardian is actually working on skills and doing a good job. (Not just changing numbers on traits). The Guardian staff rework is interesting, and the new Guardian focus 4 from the last patch is fantastic.

There were only two developers working on balance. The same ones working on Guardian were also working on Necromancer... We shall see how the new Systems Team does with balancing and reworks.

> @"Overlord RainyDay.2084" said:

> > @"maddoctor.2738" said:

> > > @"SloRules.3560" said:

> > > 9 episodes is a minimum of 18 months, that's too long.

> >

> > Well how long it is depends on the kind of content we get with it. Maybe Season 5 will be bigger than any other Season and more "expansion-like"

>

> Alternatively, It could be smaller and more focused on story like LS2. Something small to fill in a gap, set up the next conflict, and tie up a few loose ends. It seems like it's too early to speculate when we're possibly not even halfway through season 4.

It's never too early to speculate on the game dying!

Personally, I prefer the Living World model, though I do like getting new e-specs and armor skins.

What about a Fire/Air/Arcane core build for PvE staff, or do you still give up too much from Weaver?

I was just thinking about making a gear set for Support Firebrand. Thank you, ArenaNet! Keep up the good work!

> @"Solori.6025" said:

> > @"Last Crysis.1934" said:

> > Please make all dps meters a bankable offense.

> Like how much bank are we talking?

Enough to break the Bank? Maybe a Five Diamond Award or two?

> @"Aridon.8362" said:

> > @"Diak Atoli.2085" said:

> > > @"Aridon.8362" said:

> > > Honestly, because people are sad and prefer to live in misery than actually have fun. Sorry I'm just realistic. They would sit there and pretty much do the equivalent of turning a light on and off for hours, and get paid in gold then force themselves to believe that they are having fun. This should be a new disorder someone should really research.

> >

> > Is this a 'My opinion is the right one, and everyone who disagrees is wrong' post? I can't tell.

> >

> > Just because you don't find something to be fun, worthwhile, or engaging does not mean others can not.

>

> Always resorting to the typical altruistic argument that SOMEBODY HAS TO ENJOY IT, denying facts and logic with hypothetical reasoning. I can tell you right now that farming the same content isn't fun nobody likes it and it's why people take a break from mmorpgs.

>

> If everyone thought like you we'd live in a world where a large mass of people actually like the birdemic movie. It's such a bad movie that you don't even know about it but it did get published by a studio. We'd have people thinking the addam Sandler movie where it was clearly and full of commercials and pepto bismol was actually a good movie when it wasn't. Sure at first glance it may seem like an opinion, but when you have common sense you can see what's entertaining and what's boring, it doesn't take a genius to do so. Farmers always placate this mindset and it's why they will never grow out of it instead of choosing something worthwhile that's actually thrilling and not braindead. Try pvp, raiding, and WvW then you'll see what I mean.

Hey! I was right! ... That almost never happens. Huh.

Sure, at first glance, it may seem like an opinion. That's because it is an opinion, just as it's my opinion that WvW is unengaging and not fun. Still, please, explain to us your logic using your facts; since, as you've said, it should be common sense and therefore irrefutable.

> @"Aridon.8362" said:

> Honestly, because people are sad and prefer to live in misery than actually have fun. Sorry I'm just realistic. They would sit there and pretty much do the equivalent of turning a light on and off for hours, and get paid in gold then force themselves to believe that they are having fun. This should be a new disorder someone should really research.

Is this a 'My opinion is the right one, and everyone who disagrees is wrong' post? I can't tell.

Just because you don't find something to be fun, worthwhile, or engaging does not mean others can not.

> @"Jaunty.6018" said:

> > @"Gehenna.3625" said:

> > It's where you said that 2000 gems get you 600 gold. It's actually closer to 400-450 gold in the exchange rate when you buy gold with gems in game. To get 600 gold you would have to get 300 gold for 1000 gems, but in fact it's 1100-1200 gems for 250 gold. So that's where the math was off.

> >

> > Edit: the last time I can see historically where you could get 600 gold for 2000 gems was about 2 years ago.

>

> Well I hate to break it to you but I just saw the other day that it was almost 600G per 2,000 gems. My math wasn't off, you just don't believe me.

There are two different exchange rates: **Gold to Gems** and **Gems to Gold**. We, or at least I, am referencing the **Gems to Gold** rate, which is the amount of gold you receive when trading in gems. Currently, it is 2000 gems = 432g. **Gold to Gems**, or the amount of gold it costs to purchase gems, is currently 617g = 2000 gems.

Might it be possible you were looking at the wrong rate on the BLTC?

> @"Rhyse.8179" said:

> Who changed the thread title? Now it's duplicating the name of another thread.

>

> Is the forum bugging out today?

Either the OP changed it, or the moderators did. I believe it's more likely the moderators did.

Either way, the other thread was created after the name change.

... I'!m honestly confused here. What, exactly, is the problem; and how are you attempting to fix it?

> @"derd.6413" said:

> > @"TheQuickFox.3826" said:

> > > @"derd.6413" said:

> > > > @"Oglaf.1074" said:

> > > > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:

> > > > > > @"Oglaf.1074" said:

> > > > > > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:

> > > > > > > I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with them

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished:

> > > > > >

> > > > > Yeah, that's a really great tip that works for Norn (as does embiggening work with asura to see over ledges). But charr... well they are always going to walk funny and I just haven't gotten used to their "center of mass" not being where it looks to me.

> > > >

> > > > The worst part (aside from it being difficult to judge where the “feet” are when moving on all fours) is if you have a Medium armour class Charr: the way the inevitable trench coat balloons/parachutes out when you descend from your jump simply obscures everything! :anguished:

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > That's why you do JPs shirtless

> >

> > Don't try this in the volcano tho. Unless you like the smell of roasted bacon.

>

> You get used to the smell of burning furr

You wouldn't happen to be an Elementalist, would you?

_Opened thread thinking it was a PSA, found out it was someone trying to tell me what to think._

They could remove all rewards from sPvP, and I would not care.

> @"Biff.5312" said:

> What Ashantara said - you want to have the most possible mat products available to make. As for equipping yourself, you get more out of ascended weapons than armor, so artificer would be better than tailor.

Tailor & Artificer does give access to all possible material production, though.

> @"Gehenna.3625" said:

> > @"Diak Atoli.2085" said:

> > > @"Gehenna.3625" said:

> > > > @"Diak Atoli.2085" said:

> > > > > @"Jaunty.6018" said:

> > > > > > @"Diak Atoli.2085" said:

> > > > > > You mean you spend money on something you can easily get for free? Weird. :o On a more serious note, most people likely have more important or valuable things to spend real money on.

> > > > >

> > > > > How is farming 40-60 hours easier than working enough to afford $20? And what could be more valuable than time?

> > > >

> > > > First off, you mistakenly equate 40 - 60 hours worth of farming gold to the equivalent of buying $20 worth of gems and exchanging that for gold.

> > > >

> > > > Doing the full Istan meta farm, and one SW RIBA rotation for maximum MF, reasonably nets a _farmer_ an average of 20g - 25g an hour. 40 to 60 hours worth of effort equals 800g - 1,000g (40 hours) or 1,200g - 1,500g (60 hours). $20 = 1,600 gems. Current BLTC exchange is 1,600 gems** = 350g. To purchase an equivalent amount of gold, you would have to spend **$50 - $90** on gems.

> > > >

> > > > Secondly, most employees can not work additional hours without supervisor approval. Most supervisors will not give approval unless absolutely required. I, personally, have only been allowed to work 10 hours of overtime over the past 3 years.

> > > >

> > > > As for the second part of your response, I offer events such as family birthdays, vacations, going out with friends, concerts, etc. Those are much more valuable to spend money on, especially when one considers **I can make gold for free by having fun.**

> > >

> > > You do need to make the right comparison for the topic. We are talking about 2000 gem cards that you can buy online for around 20 bucks. That will buy you just over 400 gold in game. If you're a farmer and you can make 20g per hour, that's great, but that's still 20 hours to make 400 gold and the OP clearly is not a farmer. A lot of people are not in fact and don't have the max MF bonuses etc. So the fact that it's possible, doesn't make it the mainstream experience. Also, not many people have the stomach to farm that much. So much repetition gets boring really fast. It does for me.

> > >

> > > So do not use that as the average experience is what I'm saying.

> > >

> > > Now the other mistake you clearly make is that you do not see time as a resource. But it is. It's a limited resource and things like birthdays and family events cost time as well. I cannot farm when I'm doing real life stuff. So when you have a job, family etc. you will not want to spend 20 hours farming for that 400 gold if you can buy it off with money which takes you 1-2 hours to make in our economy.

> > >

> > > It really is about balancing time and money the best way for yourself. Even if I have 20+ hours a week to game (which I personally do), that also doesn't mean I want to spend it on repetitive farming. Why not? Cause I do not enjoy it. So buying some gold to jump start my account after a couple of years absence made perfect sense to me. Also I don't need thousands of gold because I am happy to just spend my time getting ascended gear which is part gathering and part buying. I only need to make 10 gold on a day to break even on that. So luckily I do not require that much gold.

> > >

> > > It's all about choices but when you have decent job, which I know not everybody has, then 20 bucks here and there are a small thing compared to the hours of farming people propose. It's good that the game doesn't just cater to one group.

> >

> > It actually is the right comparison. The unofficial official exchange rate is $10 = 800 gems, ingame as well as on sites like Amazon.com from the official NcSoft vendor. I also was not framing it as the average player's experience. I referenced how much a _farmer_, a player who enjoys the effort required to maximize profits, could make within a time frame given by the OP. My apologizes for not specifying what I meant by _farmer._ As far as Magic Find goes, I referenced SW, which gives players a +200% boost, though I admit I was unconsciously counting other MF boosters as well; such as both item boosters, celebration boosters, and food.

> >

> > You are correct, time is a resource. I see it as a resource. However, I also see that I am already using that resource to play the game how I find it to be enjoyable, which also earns me rewards (Among them liquid gold). Therefore, I, personally, am earning gold for free.

> >

> > This debate ultimately comes down to personal circumstances and preferences. For me, I routinely buy gems to spend on gem shop items, because I like supporting the game, but never to trade in for gold. It is simply not worth it, when I have better IRL purchases I can make, and I have multiple ways to enjoy the game while earning gold.

> >

> > Your opinion may vary.

> >

>

> I agree that it's personal choice, but since this thread was made by a person who uses the 2000 gem cards, that's the comparison that's relevant for this thread.

>

> You've made your choices and decisions and that's cool. To me time is precious though and there are times that time is worth more than money. I don't think that I would regularly buy gold via gems as the OP did, though I also do not begrudge him his decisions, but I did buy gold because I haven't played this game much over the years and I wanted to catch up a bit, particularly by getting some crafting professions maxed which I've done now. So for me I'm good. For the rest I spend gems mostly on useful stuff like bank space, unbreakable gathering tools and shared inventory slots etc. Those things really improve the QoL for me in game. I never did gather much until I got the unbreakable tools for example.

>

> But I do understand your point more clearly and I thank you for specifying it a bit more. I didn't quite understand where you were coming from but now I do :)

>

The OP also says he averaged 10g/hour and equates 2000 gems to 600g, when the average player may/does not. The average player may also not have secure or reliable access to those kinds of gem cards, while they do have such access to the BLTC and the $10 = 800 gems rate.

Still, to be thorough, I'll use the $20 = 2,000 gems rate.

On the BLTC Exchange, 2,000 gems = ~440g. At our earlier farming rates we had 800g - 1,600g, from a 40 - 60 hour range as given by the OP. Assuming we're buying $20 gem cards, we would still have to spend **$40 - $80**, though we would have received 80g - 160g extra.

> @"Gehenna.3625" said:

> > @"Diak Atoli.2085" said:

> > > @"Jaunty.6018" said:

> > > > @"Diak Atoli.2085" said:

> > > > You mean you spend money on something you can easily get for free? Weird. :o On a more serious note, most people likely have more important or valuable things to spend real money on.

> > >

> > > How is farming 40-60 hours easier than working enough to afford $20? And what could be more valuable than time?

> >

> > First off, you mistakenly equate 40 - 60 hours worth of farming gold to the equivalent of buying $20 worth of gems and exchanging that for gold.

> >

> > Doing the full Istan meta farm, and one SW RIBA rotation for maximum MF, reasonably nets a _farmer_ an average of 20g - 25g an hour. 40 to 60 hours worth of effort equals 800g - 1,000g (40 hours) or 1,200g - 1,500g (60 hours). $20 = 1,600 gems. Current BLTC exchange is 1,600 gems** = 350g. To purchase an equivalent amount of gold, you would have to spend **$50 - $90** on gems.

> >

> > Secondly, most employees can not work additional hours without supervisor approval. Most supervisors will not give approval unless absolutely required. I, personally, have only been allowed to work 10 hours of overtime over the past 3 years.

> >

> > As for the second part of your response, I offer events such as family birthdays, vacations, going out with friends, concerts, etc. Those are much more valuable to spend money on, especially when one considers **I can make gold for free by having fun.**

>

> You do need to make the right comparison for the topic. We are talking about 2000 gem cards that you can buy online for around 20 bucks. That will buy you just over 400 gold in game. If you're a farmer and you can make 20g per hour, that's great, but that's still 20 hours to make 400 gold and the OP clearly is not a farmer. A lot of people are not in fact and don't have the max MF bonuses etc. So the fact that it's possible, doesn't make it the mainstream experience. Also, not many people have the stomach to farm that much. So much repetition gets boring really fast. It does for me.

>

> So do not use that as the average experience is what I'm saying.

>

> Now the other mistake you clearly make is that you do not see time as a resource. But it is. It's a limited resource and things like birthdays and family events cost time as well. I cannot farm when I'm doing real life stuff. So when you have a job, family etc. you will not want to spend 20 hours farming for that 400 gold if you can buy it off with money which takes you 1-2 hours to make in our economy.

>

> It really is about balancing time and money the best way for yourself. Even if I have 20+ hours a week to game (which I personally do), that also doesn't mean I want to spend it on repetitive farming. Why not? Cause I do not enjoy it. So buying some gold to jump start my account after a couple of years absence made perfect sense to me. Also I don't need thousands of gold because I am happy to just spend my time getting ascended gear which is part gathering and part buying. I only need to make 10 gold on a day to break even on that. So luckily I do not require that much gold.

>

> It's all about choices but when you have decent job, which I know not everybody has, then 20 bucks here and there are a small thing compared to the hours of farming people propose. It's good that the game doesn't just cater to one group.

It actually is the right comparison. The unofficial official exchange rate is $10 = 800 gems, ingame as well as on sites like Amazon.com from the official NcSoft vendor. I also was not framing it as the average player's experience. I referenced how much a _farmer_, a player who enjoys the effort required to maximize profits, could make within a time frame given by the OP. My apologizes for not specifying what I meant by _farmer._ As far as Magic Find goes, I referenced SW, which gives players a +200% boost, though I admit I was unconsciously counting other MF boosters as well; such as both item boosters, celebration boosters, and food.

You are correct, time is a resource. I see it as a resource. However, I also see that I am already using that resource to play the game how I find it to be enjoyable, which also earns me rewards (Among them liquid gold). Therefore, I, personally, am earning gold for free.

This debate ultimately comes down to personal circumstances and preferences. For me, I routinely buy gems to spend on gem shop items, because I like supporting the game, but never to trade in for gold. It is simply not worth it, when I have better IRL purchases I can make, and I have multiple ways to enjoy the game while earning gold.

Your opinion may vary.

> @"foozlesprite.8051" said:

> > @"Diak Atoli.2085" said:

> > I would echo @"Loosmaster.8263" and recommend Tailor, while also adding Artificer & Weaponsmith as secondary crafting professions. Even without buying additional licenses, it's a small silver fee to switch from one to the other.

>

> Maybe it's just been too long but last time I did this I swear it was like a gold, which wasn't trifling when it was early-game and you didn't get 2g for a daily, lol.

>

> But I agree with several others - Artificer & Tailor is a good combo (plus Weaponsmith if you'd like to craft a few more of your own weapons). Not only will you be able to craft ascended gear for yourself, you will also be able to make all four ascended materials (Spiritwood Plank, Deldrimor Steel, Elonian Leather, Bolt of Damask) to sell.

It costs 50s to switch **to** a maxed (Level 500) crafting profession. Had to double check the wiki, it's been that long since I actually did it.

> @"Patchwreck.2357" said:

> > @"Diak Atoli.2085" said:

> > Heart of Thorns was a fiasco? Huh, you learn something new every day...

> >

> > I prefer the Heart of Thorns metas over Path of Fire's, yet I prefer the open maps of PoF more. I find the mobs in both maps to be of equal difficulty. Personally, they should continue to release content inspired by both.

> >

> > As always, your opinions may vary.

> >

> > _Edit for spellcheck._ :#

>

> A lot of ppl quit because of HoT and have started coming back because of PoF. Casuals make up the majority of the income for almost all mmos and there for its a fiasco to loose a lot of the ppl who keep the lights on.

As I said, opinions may vary. I consider myself a casual player, yet I loved HoT. As for the 'a lot of people quit because of HoT,' I can say nothing except I've seen no evidence of it.

> @"Oglaf.1074" said:

> > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:

> > I love Charr as a race, but I find it hard to do JPs with them

>

> As a Norn I feel your pain. My friend hooked me up with an endless Quaggan tonic and it solved 99% of JPs for me. Sadly there are some that don’t allow, or otherwise messes with, tonics... :anguished:

>

>

Endless Miniature Tonic. **Best. Purchase. Ever.**

Heart of Thorns was a fiasco? Huh, you learn something new every day...

I prefer the Heart of Thorns metas over Path of Fire's, yet I prefer the open maps of PoF more. I find the mobs in both maps to be of equal difficulty. Personally, they should continue to release content inspired by both.

As always, your opinions may vary.

_Edit for spellcheck._ :#