Mesmer must be removed

[Aeolus.3615]

> @"Tseison.4659" said:

> I mean, they can easily introduce hexes for Mesmers in the form of a reverse barrier that only lasts for 2-3secs OR can create another debuff that can’t be removed and once the hex ends, it inflicts random damage/conditions/cc. But these hexes would be more utility skills than F1-4 skills.

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> It’s just too hard to work new elite specs around stupid clones...

 

IMO mesmer overall and ranger are a disgrace in terms of class design, they have lost their themes and gameplay, the elite specs are just buffed gimmick version of their core... :pensive:

 

Mesmer has a lost chrono while Mirage is core on steroids just like ranger has druids and beastmaster being a ranger on steroids xD..... tell me this isnt a class design issue form Anet dev's?

 

Chrono F keys could effect the boons and secondary effects of the wells form offensive/defensive, wells would have to last a bit longe

[AnimatedWolf.9213]

I love Mesmer and their elite specs in regards to aesthetic and base usage. I'm really hoping that ANet can live up to the original glory days that mesmer used to have when the next big balance patch hits

[WindBlade.8749]

Whut, In PVE HL, mesmer is one of the strongest build on condi, power, tank, boon wtf are you talking about xD it's so powerful that everyone just stack them.

[Woltarion.6829]

> @"WindBlade.8749" said:

> Whut, In PVE HL, mesmer is one of the strongest build on condi, power, tank, boon kitten are you talking about xD it's so powerful that everyone just stack them.

 

Yeah but in PvE ennemies are most of time not moving that much, and you're not the direct target of most of the damage and condi that you have to dispel. You can't stay immobile in PvP and expect to survive more than 3sec alive so you always have to move, all your wells are spells that force you to stay at the same place. Your clones are destroyed by ennemy aoe, and ennemies can outrun them, making them useless. Or they can also jump on a higher level so the clone is just doing nothing because it struggles to (or just can't) move upstairs. Ennemies can CC you hard, and interrupt all your cast and dodge your fantasm, mesmer is not totally useless in PvP but it's super hard to get decent damage and survive at the same time. Meanwhile, an inge with flamethrower can out dps you by just spamming AA and is still more tanky than you...

[WindBlade.8749]

> @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > @"WindBlade.8749" said:

> > Whut, In PVE HL, mesmer is one of the strongest build on condi, power, tank, boon kitten are you talking about xD it's so powerful that everyone just stack them.

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> Yeah but in PvE ennemies are most of time not moving that much, and you're not the direct target of most of the damage and condi that you have to dispel. You can't stay immobile in PvP and expect to survive more than 3sec alive so you always have to move, all your wells are spells that force you to stay at the same place.

 

"Laugh in largos where you can't stand in one place for more than 5s and the mob always dash everwhere"

 

anyway yes, but this topic is way more on the PvP/WvW side, it's should be specified in the title, in pve, mesmer is overpowered compared to others professions.

[Stand The Wall.6987]

just give gw2 mes some gw1 skills like wastrels. they abandoned the shutdown component which was kind of profession defining.

[Leonidrex.5649]

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> just give gw2 mes some gw1 skills like wastrels. they abandoned the shutdown component which was kind of profession defining.

 

people cant handle getting dazed, or hit for 2k with confusion. some of the gw1 skills would make them flip out

[necromaniac.7629]

> @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> > just give gw2 mes some gw1 skills like wastrels. they abandoned the shutdown component which was kind of profession defining.

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> people cant handle getting dazed, or hit for 2k with confusion. some of the gw1 skills would make them flip out

 

or better yet one-shot with confusion?

[necromaniac.7629]

> @"Yasai.3549" said:

> Idk man, Condi Chrono's been working out for me.

 

same i love it

[lare.5129]

it is already done, so we can no worry about it. Also prev season I play condi chrno, and per 200 games don't see in opposite team that. 2-3 chrno seen per 200 games, and not condi, so I think it is great!