azzardome.9184 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 chronomancer or core ele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Yah know you can make a poll. This is like asking a question w.o expecting an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 What isnt? Core engi? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > **Broken as in broken? Necro and its derivatives. Necro has a hard matchup vs every meta spec for no reason.** > > Broken as in overpowered? Probably weaver, also FB. _cries in chronomancer_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 > @"azzardome.9184" said: > chronomancer :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylo.1968 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Permastealth DE, condi Mirage, Symbolbrand, Bambi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylo.1968 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 > @"Hylo.1968" said: > Permastealth DE, condi Mirage, Symbolbrand, Bambi Edit: Warrior 0 effort self sustain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzardome.9184 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 > @"Odik.4587" said: > > @"azzardome.9184" said: > > chronomancer > :( forgot core engi xdd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > To be honest, nothing right now stands out as way more powerful than the rest. There's stuff that's annoying, gimmicky, cheap, but there's nothing that you *always* see at least 2 of on every team, like we had with some classes in previous years. > > SpB? Strong. Herald? Strong. FB? Strong. SoulB? Strong. Holo? Strong. Thief? Strong. Weaver? Strong. Necro? Strong. Mirage? Strong. Necro probably the weakest there, but not by much. > > All of the above need bringing down to the power-level of things like Druid and DH, and core ele/engi need a slight boost. But that's a separate issue. that s because most ppl find boring playing ele, if wasnt that you'd see a lot more double ele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 > @"Khalisto.5780" said: > > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > To be honest, nothing right now stands out as way more powerful than the rest. There's stuff that's annoying, gimmicky, cheap, but there's nothing that you *always* see at least 2 of on every team, like we had with some classes in previous years. > > > > SpB? Strong. Herald? Strong. FB? Strong. SoulB? Strong. Holo? Strong. Thief? Strong. Weaver? Strong. Necro? Strong. Mirage? Strong. Necro probably the weakest there, but not by much. > > > > All of the above need bringing down to the power-level of things like Druid and DH, and core ele/engi need a slight boost. But that's a separate issue. > > that s because most ppl find boring playing ele, if wasnt that you'd see a lot more double ele I saw streamer play ele vs scrapper and it was the most boring thing ever, none of them died even in 1v2 or 2v1. didnt even have to kite off node, hp never dropped under 50%. I would rather uninstall then play this shit. Old scrapper almost made me quit pvp it was so boring lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramorion.5498 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I don't do much PVP anymore, but when I did, I owned with my Mirage... and I didn't know wtf I was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorQ.7041 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > @"Alatar.7364" said: > > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > > Endless evade/teleport thf. It has constant stun, boon rip, weakness application. > > > > > > > > > It doesn't need the stun on pistol wip, and the 3/4 second evade should be shorter to 1/2 a second or less and only affect the end of the skill. The evade shouldn't last the entire time and should have a small window just after it starts so it can be countered with good skill and reaction timing. With sword 2 teleport at the ready the thf is safe to just port away. But will have to be careful of there enemy alittle more when attacking. > > > > The evade doesn't last the entire time. There is a window both before the PW starts and during its last swing animations. There even is a small window **after** the initial stun, if you avoid that then **even then** you can still stop PW. You have 3 windows of opportunity on one skill, you literally can't make that skill more punishable than it is. > > This is what I got from the wiki. "The evasion window lasts for ~1.25 seconds" that is a long evasion uptime. Ontop of all the other evades, vigor uptime and other endurance gaining traits. I feel it's to strong in 1v1s. It really isn't. It's only looks over powered to inexperienced players. If u r watching sindrender he is basically a monster. For the average guy You try run this build in plat. U will get schooled. They will dodge. Wait for your animation to end and because u r rooted in place they will cc then burst u. N u only have so many pw. U can't just spam it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 > @"apharma.3741" said: > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > **Broken as in broken? Necro and its derivatives. Necro has a hard matchup vs every meta spec for no reason.** > > > > Broken as in overpowered? Probably weaver, also FB. > > _cries in chronomancer_ Yall have a neat build relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDragon.3046 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 The three types of broken Broken as in not balanced as in im overperfomlng and win because im mechanically superior Firebrand (Just doing too much at once) Weaver (removing some burn dps and stab from stances would prob make them tolerable as it would make ToF evasions punishable with well timed cc) Soulbeast (bit too much boon access) Rev (damage way too high) Warrior generally (might synergy over-performing) Mirage gets an honorable mention ? Broken as in it dont work or is flawed in some way by initial design/ Poor choices over time have ruined it and will cost anet money and time to fix Also Mirage Core engi / Scrapper Necro core stuff in general/Scourge Broken as in its dead..... as in now "balanced" as in you can make it work but just refuse to play it cause why would you when you can be boosted by x elite/class Chrono (mostly) But also maybe Scrapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 * Any profession that can self-buff 25 might. * Any profession that can front load a lot of condi damage. * Any profession where there are not trade offs between sustain and damage. * Any profession that can one shot with little to no counter play(specially from stealth). * Any profession that can have a ~75-100% uptime on the boons it applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDragon.3046 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > * Any profession that can self-buff 25 might. > * Any profession that can front load a lot of condi damage. > * Any profession where there are not trade offs between sustain and damage. > * Any profession that can one shot with little to no counter play(specially from stealth). > * Any profession that can have a ~75-100% uptime on the boons it applies. Everyone in a nutshell not one profession is exempt from at least 1 thing on this list. While some others are offenders of multiple things on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreddo.9865 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Symbolbrand easy spam of everything be it mantras, tomes, utils. Weaver any kind of it for reasons we all know. Revenant and Thief - too much mobility and sustain for the dps they produce. It's funny seeing thieves facetanking groups right? Soulbeast still hits like a truck both ranged and melee. Condi Mirage despite the numerous 'nerfs' still king of 1v1 unless it meets a thief. Any meme build like core "perma stealth/one shot" mesmer and perma stealth DE (even worse in WvW). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alin.2468 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 This discussion reminds me of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 > @"Alin.2468" said: > This discussion reminds me of... > I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoRi Silvia.4159 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Kitten I hope the new balance patch hits hard like a freight train for thieves , mirages and guardians . Mirage and thieves mostly . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 > @"Tycura.1982" said: > None stand out very much. The other specs should be buffed to match current performance. There's many viable classes right now and not a one of them doesn't have counterplay. > > In my estimation the classes in need of the most love are druid, scourge, renegade, core engie, dragon hunter, chrono, core thief, and berserker. How about we stop the powercreep and instead of buffing the underperformers, we nerf the overperformer to bring them in line? Your way of balancing brought us into this powercrept state of a game. > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > Permastealth DE, condi Mirage, Symbolbrand, Bambi > > Edit: Warrior 0 effort self sustain > > Warrior has to hit f burst skills to get sustain, be it adrenal health (defense traitline isnt even meta anymore) or magebane tether/mmr If you avoid getting hit or break the tether you deny the warrior most of his sustain in the current metabuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimon.7840 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 > @"apharma.3741" said: > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > **Broken as in broken? Necro and its derivatives. Necro has a hard matchup vs every meta spec for no reason.** > > > > Broken as in overpowered? Probably weaver, also FB. > > _cries in chronomancer_ Lol. As if Chrono invented nerfs xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMS.1976 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Scourge, as they completely unplayable in spvp at this moment. Anet wiped out this class from pvp. U need condi - core necro is much better, u need power - reaper is much better. U need support - play another class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psykewne.3025 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > * Any profession that can self-buff 25 might. > * Any profession that can front load a lot of condi damage. > * Any profession where there are not trade offs between sustain and damage. > * Any profession that can one shot with little to no counter play(specially from stealth). > * Any profession that can have a ~75-100% uptime on the boons it applies. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Needs fixing immediately: Boon uptimes in general Ranger Greatsword 4 Revenant Riposting Shadows Almost broken but not quite there yet: Warrior Bull's Charge Thief Pistol Whip (s/p 3) Fire Weaver in general (it's not exactly one skill) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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