Dantert.1803 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 So this is probably one more post from one of those that played the game from the very start of Gw1 and played Gw2 and only recently is starting to feel like Gw2 is no more as interesting as before.. I thought I had to let the boredom I felt in the game pass but then i saw the video from WP and it really confirmed my fear.. Even WP is struggling creating interesting content for this game....what does that tell us? And what does that tell Anet? No expansion, giving us little chunks of story no real repeatable content, we explored all and it takes nothing to explore those little patches that are coming out... To me if even WP that managed all these years to make the 2 hours video on just little things about the game, then it means that the game is becoming an empty shell... And I get it you can go for raids, done that...but what else? If only we would get a big drop of content , if Anet focused on bringing together the small patches in something more like an expansion and add new stuff in general, it would feel more meaningless. But yeah maybe this is just one man's thoughts.... ps: and no you can't get my stuff, I'm not leaving yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakaru.6583 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 In my thought, for everyone comes a time you're feeling done with the game. But there's never a a need to choose between dedication and quitting. I just put gw2 on a lower flame, playing some other games. I'm now mostly active around festivals and story releases, but play very little inbetween. I've kinda seen and done it all. But I've no plans to quit. And i urge the same to everyone else. If you're feeling burnt out, take a break, play something else. If you force yourself to keep playing you'll start hating the game. As for WP, yea he was a great channel. But for someone generating 2 hour videos everything must also come a burn out at some point. No doubt he could still make a 2 hour video about the ghost apparitions in west Bjora. But if he has to force himself those videos won't be as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coso.9173 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 You don't need reasons to quit or reduce your playtime in gw2. Not having fun? Take a break, or just quit. It's what I did with all my past mmos. Neverwinter, dcuo, champions online, secret world, wow, Tera, domo, lineage 2, ragnarok online, etc... Dont mind what others have to say about it, be it wooden potatoes or any other YouTuber. What matters is if you're having fun or not. I know I'm having a lot of fun with this new saga so far, after months of barely playing at all. I don't care what others say and neither should you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenmonster.3621 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Is he angry about the elementalist nerfs too? But since we're invoking authority to justify personal feelings about the game, the ghost of Cab Calloway told me that someone else's burn out and general disgruntled mood doesn't mean shit to my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantert.1803 Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 > @"thepenmonster.3621" said: > Is he angry about the elementalist nerfs too? > > But since we're invoking authority to justify personal feelings about the game, the ghost of Cab Calloway told me that someone else's burn out and general disgruntled mood doesn't mean kitten to my experience. What I said is that I am feeling in a certain way and I got my feeling confirmed seeing it from the perspective of someone so invested in the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Wooden Potatoes stated he would not be any less dedicated to Guild Wars 2. He said he would be making videos on other subjects, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniaG.3062 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 WP didn't say that he's struggling with GW2. He said that he'll continue covering the game exactly as he did but he'll also make types of videos that he enjoyes even thought they don't get as many views as some of his other videos (ex. the seoson 2 let's play). He'll be making videos on other games but his GW2 videos will continue the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirogen.9561 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 There are 2 things very important for MMO: 1) there must be a big boost of content from time to time. Expansion. New maps, dungeons, raids, fractals, race, class. Can't do the same stuff forever. **And no, nerfs don't count as "expansion level content"**. 2) other like minded people. Friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassdeff.1895 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Why the fuck should anyone care about what wooden potatoes thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratan.4619 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Who is wooden potatos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t sakacs.7568 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I don't know who Wooden potato is but if he has been around that long then he is probably just burned out :/ Gotta take a break sometimes. I play SWTOR but i have to take a couple months off here and there until i get that feeling again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 He's still planning to do a lot of GW2 content, he's just branching out to increase his audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I think people who watching GW2 partners' videos is not getting the underline issue, which is producing GW2 content videos alone is insufficient to support their living hood, because GW has historically have much smaller player base compare to other games look at how much contents WoW:C has? not very much, people just steamroll all contents within the first week, but it still drew massive number of viewers to the streamers because of WoW had historically higher number of players, even those who had quit WoW for years will be drawn to watch them just to kill time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenmonster.3621 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 > @"Dantert.1803" said: >What I said is that I am feeling in a certain way... And what I'm saying is that an appeal to authority isn't worth a wooden potato. Invoking him, or any other doofus who plays video games for a living for that matter, doesn't give your personal feelings any more weight. You're unhappy with the state of the game? GW2 ain't _Roots_ and you're not Kunta Kinte. Walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantert.1803 Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 > @"thepenmonster.3621" said: > > @"Dantert.1803" said: > >What I said is that I am feeling in a certain way... > > And what I'm saying is that an appeal to authority isn't worth a wooden potato. Invoking him, or any other doofus who plays video games for a living for that matter, doesn't give your personal feelings any more weight. > > You're unhappy with the state of the game? GW2 ain't _Roots_ and you're not Kunta Kinte. Walk. Oh man, now you made me change my mind...not... XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 He would be so incredibly disappointed with you for posting something like this. You clearly haven't watched the video, else you would understand that none of this has to do with GW2. He isn't "not sticking with GW2", he is doing what he has always done - produce content that isn't GW2. He will still produce the SAME AMOUNT of GW2 content, he will just show us more (again) of what he does besides it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > Wooden Potatoes stated he would not be any less dedicated to Guild Wars 2. He said he would be making videos on other subjects, as well. This. > @"Dantert.1803" said: > Even WP is struggling creating interesting content for this game....what does that tell us? And what does that tell Anet? **Things of note**: - WP started accepting community help in maxing his account starting last year, he made a note about that in his last account tour video early this year. This is no comment on good or bad (I personally do not mind this approach) but it will certainly have left him with less motivation to play his main account with less goals to strive for - WP has over 13,000+ hours played on his main account alone (I'm to lazy to check the actual amount for 2019, I know it was above 13k on his account tour 2018) so expect him to be at maybe 14-15k now? If you are amazed (or feel kindred in spirit) that someone who has spent this amount of time on a game might be burnt out (and he is not even quitting, just expanding to other content), you have sunk a ton more time into this game compared to most average players. This is no: everything is fine comment. Yes, we are all noticing and missing the lack of expansion from last year (especially since all the other MMOs had one), but come on. Taking WP as baseline for lack of content? I mean I love the guy too, but he has devoted a TON of more time into the game compared to most players. The correct approach would be to say: look how Arenanet has been able to keep players this devoted over the years. Let's hope they keep up that work and improve on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 As far as I can tell WP is not changing his channel cuz of The current state of GW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esterie.7409 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I don't think we watched the same video, because what I gathered is that WP is just expanding the content on his channel, as he has done in the past, _while still_ producing GW2 content (2 out of 4 weeks a month will involve GW2, he's even continuing his GW2 let's play with Living World Season 2). He made it very clear that he still loves GW2, will still be making GW2 content, and was so clear in the hopes that people wouldn't make posts like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenmonster.3621 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Now that I've watched it here's a quote from _the first five minutes_ of the video; >I'm hoping that the decisions that I'm about to divulge to you here won't be met with hysteria about how I suddenly hate Guild Wars 2, and I'm leaving Guild Wars 2, and all that waffle. It's not true. Good work with the misrepresenting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t sakacs.7568 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 He's just one guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Nothing wrong with him wanting to add more games to his channel. Honestly im surprised he didn't start doing it years ago. There's plenty of good games out there with great lore and stuff he can make tons of content on. I'd love to see him make content on Elder Scrolls or Baldurs Gate or something like that, those are great franchises as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloc Freidon.5692 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 In the video he is talking about how little watch time is in certain videos. Instead of taking it as a hint that its the content no one cares about, he assumes its because the game is hurting in those places. No one cares about Living World 1 content because no one can experience it for themselves. The majority doesn't care about competitive game modes. It is important for there to be length in videos, but there is such a thing as videos being too long that it is overwhelming. Especially for a game where it is more fun to play than to watch others play. It certainly hurts when he talks down to the casuals and invalidates other's opinions that don't match his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauderi.8706 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 No game, even an MMO is going to remain entertaining indefinitely. Same goes for streamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdy.5107 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Whats a wooden potato? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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