Faline.8795 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Only those with a crystal ball will know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coso.9173 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 All exoacs have brought important changes to game play so far. I don't think this will be any exception to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Wait... So there will be a singing group in the expac to go with the Rock Band from the Living story??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 The thing that connects Cantha with the current story line might be Bubbles. Bubbles also might be the enemy Jormag wants the commander to defeat. I can totally see a more of the current story within and around Cantha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspirine.6852 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > Wait... So there will be a singing group in the expac to go with the Rock Band from the Living story??!! I heard a couple of rocking charr are waiting for a world tour... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimstone.3807 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Faline.8795" said: > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? The fact that it is very likely going to be Cantha themed already answers your question. This in and of itself is a safe and boring choice. Who can blame them? Entertainment media companies these days rarely do anything original anymore. Why should features be unique and genre challenging when they can't even get out of the wayback machine plotwise. Here's to the next few years of going places we've already seen in GW1, more Star Wars and Marvel, and generally no new ideas. Hooray!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannelore.8153 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Both expansions so far have radically changed the game, and the entire Living World seasons that followed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse.7382 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 water....lots of water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Brimstone.3807" said: > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? > > The fact that it is very likely going to be Cantha themed already answers your question. This in and of itself is a safe and boring choice. Who can blame them? Entertainment media companies these days rarely do anything original anymore. Why should features be unique and genre challenging when they can't even get out of the wayback machine plotwise. Here's to the next few years of going places we've already seen in GW1, more Star Wars and Marvel, and generally no new ideas. Hooray!! This is a company that has to earn some money, can you really blame them that they are sending us to Cantha, which has been the **most requested** location by the playerbase for years by far? Yes, it is a safe choice, but why is that a bad thing? Why does it automatically have to be "boring" for you? Why not give something to the players that would actually satisfy them? There were loads of threads asking for Cantha, it is obvious that this is what the playerbase wants and what will create the most hype for their next expansion. Just look at the boards here, there are new threads about speculations coming up all the time, just because they have shown us a picture that implies that we are finally going to Cantha with the story. From a business point of view, it was just the most logical and best choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Faline.8795" said: > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? Let's hope it does ... because it's the 'choir' that pays the bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zityz.6089 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Doesn't matter. Like lots of other stuff in gaming, people mope and complain about it, but then go and buy it anyway. I'm personally excited as i enjoyed factions way more than nightfall, and Path of Fire just didn't do it for me. Plus it makes sense we would be going to a place we visited in GW1 as its established lore finding out how it turned out 250 years later like the rest of the areas. Yes it would be nice to visit other continents as well, but let that be for the future. As far as lore is concerned, I cannot see many humans travelling father south west of Cantha to those duel islands, and sure there may be colonies further North/ North East of Core Tyria, but since the dragon problem is conveniently centralized locally within the specified section of the main continent, instead of the actual planet, I'm sure whatever "problem" they would be having, wouldn't involve dragons or rouge gods or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Faline.8795" said: > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? +1 **'Preach to the choir requires to see eye-to-eye with the choir'** more of the same because the Truth continues to suffer...the root cause problems continues to be shoved under the rug thus new players experience will continue to suffer as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faline.8795 Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? > > Let's hope it does ... because it's the 'choir' that pays the bills. Yes, that is true. But are they paying the bills enough? Is this new expact GW2's "last chance" to lift itself before ANet gives up? And do they really just want to keep what they have? Are they really not going to go for new blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Faline.8795" said: > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? > > > > Let's hope it does ... because it's the 'choir' that pays the bills. > > Yes, that is true. But are they paying the bills enough? Is this new expact GW2's "last chance" to lift itself before ANet gives up? > > And do they really just want to keep what they have? Are they really not going to go for new blood? I don't know ... but if you think 'new players' are going to adopt a 8 YO game to fill that gap, that's probably LESS likely than Anet going back to it's roots and giving players what they want who DID make this game going at the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Sure ... I guess one of the elite spec could be Bard? GW1 also had chants as a skill type. or for a more serious response, that is an ignorant question. All classes can already perform all roles to some degree. Elite specs simply skews it in a direction allowing a class to be more specialized into something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurfu.5623 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Bring new players? I doubt it... HoT killed off a significant portion of the original player-base, and PoF was an effort to retain what was left. Whatever this new XP is gonna be (and I honestly hope it's something great), it's going to be a challenge to recover from previous losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard.8150 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Faline.8795" said: > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? > > > > Let's hope it does ... because it's the 'choir' that pays the bills. > > Yes, that is true. But are they paying the bills enough? Is this new expact GW2's "last chance" to lift itself before ANet gives up? > > And do they really just want to keep what they have? Are they really not going to go for new blood? I see this "new blood" referenced a lot on Pg 1 of this thread, but I'm curious: What is it that you think a new player is actually looking for from GW 2? You see, that long time established players **_might_** be burnt out on what's here, new players haven't experienced any of it yet. It seems to me, from the prospective of a "relatively new player", that there's a lot of projection going on; "We're going to be unhappy, but just saying that won't leverage any sympathy, so let's claim it's going to adversely affect new players, that'll give our arguments some weight". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Faline.8795" said: > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? More of the same to appease the hyper casual playerbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannelore.8153 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"zityz.6089" said: > Doesn't matter. Like lots of other stuff in gaming, people mope and complain about it, but then go and buy it anyway. > > I'm personally excited as i enjoyed factions way more than nightfall, and Path of Fire just didn't do it for me. Plus it makes sense we would be going to a place we visited in GW1 as its established lore finding out how it turned out 250 years later like the rest of the areas. > > Yes it would be nice to visit other continents as well, but let that be for the future. As far as lore is concerned, I cannot see many humans travelling father south west of Cantha to those duel islands, and sure there may be colonies further North/ North East of Core Tyria, but since the dragon problem is conveniently centralized locally within the specified section of the main continent, instead of the actual planet, I'm sure whatever "problem" they would be having, wouldn't involve dragons or rouge gods or anything. The fact that the Dragons are surrounding Central Tyria, with some of them existing just on the outskirts, is consistent with the lore that they're attracted to civilsations and magic, and thus shows how unlikely it is that there's significant life elsewhere on Tyria. As far as we know, Tyria had no land bridge like Earth, most life would be stuck on the same continent it evolved. Of course, this isn't the case of Orr and Elona because they're physically connected to Central Tyria, and the Humans were spread by the Gods; the same would not be true for any of the races that were native to Tyria such as the Jotun, unless they also used Mists portal magic. I don't know why people think that the rest of Tyria--especially remote islands--are brimming with sentient life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Brimstone.3807" said: > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? > > The fact that it is very likely going to be Cantha themed already answers your question. This in and of itself is a safe and boring choice. Who can blame them? Entertainment media companies these days rarely do anything original anymore. Why should features be unique and genre challenging when they can't even get out of the wayback machine plotwise. Here's to the next few years of going places we've already seen in GW1, more Star Wars and Marvel, and generally no new ideas. Hooray!! Considering there are still 2 thirds (or was it more like 3 quarters?) of that continent are unexplored it's far less of a boring choice imo Showing off the change in the last 250+ years is also something very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Fueki.4753" said: > The thing that connects Cantha with the current story line might be Bubbles. > Bubbles also might be the enemy Jormag wants the commander to defeat. > I can totally see a more of the current story within and around Cantha. This is probably the main thing I am curious about atm. We know an expansion is coming and it's going to be Cantha but with the current storyline there isn't all that much to connect the two. Granted there is still a good chunk of icebrood saga left to go which will likely reveal everything but right now the speculation is all about Bubbles lol Im curious about the Canthan Empire just as much as I am of Bubbles, I wanna know what's been going on over there in the last 250ish years. We know the Canthans are or were largely xenophobic before we lost contact with them but we don't know much else beyond that. For all we know the threat on the horizon might be Bubbles.. or it could be the Canthan Empire.. or it could be something entirely unknown that we couldn't possibly predict. Man I can't wait to find out what's going to happen over the next 2 years, very exciting time to be a Guildwars fan ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? > more of the same because the Truth continues to suffer...the root cause problems continues to be shoved under the rug thus new players experience will continue to suffer as well What "truth"? What root cause problems? What was shoved under the rug that makes the new players suffer in the light of releasing a new expansion? You realise that in your post you've said pretty much nothing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > > > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? > > > > > > Let's hope it does ... because it's the 'choir' that pays the bills. > > > > Yes, that is true. But are they paying the bills enough? Is this new expact GW2's "last chance" to lift itself before ANet gives up? > > > > And do they really just want to keep what they have? Are they really not going to go for new blood? > > I see this "new blood" referenced a lot on Pg 1 of this thread, but I'm curious: What is it that you think a new player is actually looking for from GW 2? You see, that long time established players **_might_** be burnt out on what's here, new players haven't experienced any of it yet. It seems to me, from the prospective of a "relatively new player", that there's a lot of projection going on; "We're going to be unhappy, but just saying that won't leverage any sympathy, so let's claim it's going to adversely affect new players, that'll give our arguments some weight". True. My problem with this 'new player' claim is that it's a fallacy. Technically, all the _current_ content qualifies as new for a new player ... but for some reason people think an expansion will bring them in? I don't get that logic. If anything, I think the longer a game is out, the harder it will be for new players to get into it and that includes more expansions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > > > @"Faline.8795" said: > > > > > So with the new expac, are they going to be doing something different, or will it be "more of the same", thus not really bring attractive to new players? > > > > > > > > Let's hope it does ... because it's the 'choir' that pays the bills. > > > > > > Yes, that is true. But are they paying the bills enough? Is this new expact GW2's "last chance" to lift itself before ANet gives up? > > > > > > And do they really just want to keep what they have? Are they really not going to go for new blood? > > > > I see this "new blood" referenced a lot on Pg 1 of this thread, but I'm curious: What is it that you think a new player is actually looking for from GW 2? You see, that long time established players **_might_** be burnt out on what's here, new players haven't experienced any of it yet. It seems to me, from the prospective of a "relatively new player", that there's a lot of projection going on; "We're going to be unhappy, but just saying that won't leverage any sympathy, so let's claim it's going to adversely affect new players, that'll give our arguments some weight". > > True. My problem with this 'new player' claim is that it's a fallacy. Technically, all the _current_ content qualifies as new for a new player ... but for some reason people think an expansion will bring them in? I don't get that logic. > > If anything, I think the longer a game is out, the harder it will be for new players to get into it and that includes more expansions. I think alot of that comes from the marketing thats done for other games expansions. Im not ive ever seen a GW add on TV/Netflix/Youtube etc or but ive seen WOW and ESO advertisements -alot- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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