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> @"Randulf.7614" said:
> > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > @"Fueki.4753" said:
> > > > @"Randulf.7614" said:
> > > > I dont really believe Anet would stoop that low either.
> > > Just look at the extend of the ~~template~~ loadout monetization.
> > > I wouldn't be surprised of they sell us the especs at a rate of 2000 gems per spec.
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> > Would it be that bad if they sell the e-specs for lets say 15 or 20 bucks if they give you the rest of the expac for free if you login? I don't see the problem
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> I think it would be a massive problem yes. It could even be the straw that breaks the game population. Monetising the templates seemed pretty reasonable to me (and people were asking for just that). The backlash however was.....significant. This would be on a whole new scale of damage
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> Paying for elites is a step too far. It opens up a precedent to start selling off bits of content to those with the cash and that is very much not the Anet way.
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> Elites are traitlines. If it's an expac, then they come as a feature of it. If included with the Saga, then its included for free. There is no reason for them to do it beyond pure greed and a disrespect to the playerbase. I think many things about Anet, but I am confident such a decision would never be taken or realistically considered
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I really don't see the problem. Instead of paying for the expac, you get expac-level maps and features for free and just pay for the e-specs since they are basically the core of an expac because they apply to all game modes : pve/pvp/wvwvw
I mean, lets say youre a spvp player...why are you buying the expac? for the especs.
If youre a wvwvw player....same thing. Your reasoning just seems flawed to me.
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> @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > The amount of time needed to create and balance 9 new elite specs is far too big for them to be released outside of an expansion.
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> > > It's far too big a task to be done as living world.. and even if it was done and Anet decided to release another expansion in the future people would quickly start to ask questions like.. why should we have to pay for this expansion when all the features in it we've been getting for free over the last few years.
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> > > The biggest problem with promiting messages like.. Expansion like content.
> > > Give people things for free and they will expect you to continue to do so.
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> > I wouldn't mind paying for the e-specs separately if the LW gives expac-level maps and features.
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> The amount of pay to win rage that would cause though xD
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Since when paid DLC is p2w?
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> @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said:
> > @"Smoosh.2718" said:
> > Im still on the side where i believe the rifle should be a shotgun, designed around mid range AOE combat. Maybe make the burst skill flip all the 1-5 skills into new faster longer range harder hitting skills for X shots.
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> > Personally I see a shotgun more fitting for the warrior than a very boring rifle that just goes bang bang bang and a clunky dodge.
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> I'd be cool with a 900 range AoE monster, but we'd need a 1200 or 1500 range power option still.
That would require too much work, which is why I offered a quick fix/band-aid
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> @"Fueki.4753" said:
> > @"Randulf.7614" said:
> > I dont really believe Anet would stoop that low either.
> Just look at the extend of the ~~template~~ loadout monetization.
> I wouldn't be surprised of they sell us the especs at a rate of 2000 gems per spec.
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Would it be that bad if they sell the e-specs for lets say 15 or 20 bucks if they give you the rest of the expac for free if you login? I don't see the problem
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So far its a vast majority for No.
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> @"Teratus.2859" said:
> The amount of time needed to create and balance 9 new elite specs is far too big for them to be released outside of an expansion.
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> It's far too big a task to be done as living world.. and even if it was done and Anet decided to release another expansion in the future people would quickly start to ask questions like.. why should we have to pay for this expansion when all the features in it we've been getting for free over the last few years.
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> The biggest problem with promiting messages like.. Expansion like content.
> Give people things for free and they will expect you to continue to do so.
I wouldn't mind paying for the e-specs separately if the LW gives expac-level maps and features.
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> @"Sobx.1758" said:
> Who are you even asking right now? Without any official information, asking this question is pointless, anyone can write anything and at this moment it will be as correct as it will be false. And we have no way of knowing which is which. Oof.
Maybe someone knows something
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The San Bernard mount is the best ofc.
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Do you feel like the current LW season provides expac-level content?
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I see people taking about a massive balance update that's supposedly coming soon yet I don't see anything from Anet about it.. Where is it coming from?
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Two ideas.
Asura - a genius inventor who meddles with battle gadgets and machines.
Charr - Iron legion all the way. The power of the machine.
Id go for a charr flamethrower engi that's all about fire burning your enemies alive screaming.
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> @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > > > > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > > > > > > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > > > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > > > > > > > Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".
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> > > > > > > > What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
> > > > > > > > I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect
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> > > > > > > I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.
> > > > > > Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.
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> > > > > Ah, well, either way. I think (almost) everyone has come to the conclusion "We would really really x100 really like new especs but I doubt it will ever happen". I've found when it come to content releases anet leaves me floating in this pool of doubt and disappointment, so best not to hope for anything in particular.
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> > > > Would you pay for a new round of e-specs?
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> > > Totally, and (completely personal conjecture) I think a lot of people would. That's not enough though. It's much easier for them to farm the gem store with a few skins every now and then than to work hard on new especs that will probably have a much smaller profit margin.
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> > Perhaps the elites wont be available through the gem store and youd have to buy em for hard cash like exapca? Maybe that will make it worth their time? I dunno. I feel like new especs would bring a tsunami of new and returning players.
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> They would know better than us. They have the data on the last two expansions. Either way I wish they would just give us a hard "Yes/No" so were were not left hanging in this constant cloud of hope and uncertainty.
Couldn't agree more with that statement.
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> @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > > > > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > > > > > Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".
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> > > > > > What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
> > > > > > I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect
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> > > > > I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.
> > > > Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.
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> > > Ah, well, either way. I think (almost) everyone has come to the conclusion "We would really really x100 really like new especs but I doubt it will ever happen". I've found when it come to content releases anet leaves me floating in this pool of doubt and disappointment, so best not to hope for anything in particular.
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> > Would you pay for a new round of e-specs?
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> Totally, and (completely personal conjecture) I think a lot of people would. That's not enough though. It's much easier for them to farm the gem store with a few skins every now and then than to work hard on new especs that will probably have a much smaller profit margin.
Perhaps the elites wont be available through the gem store and youd have to buy em for hard cash like exapca? Maybe that will make it worth their time? I dunno. I feel like new especs would bring a tsunami of new and returning players.
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> @"Randulf.7614" said:
> > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > @"Randulf.7614" said:
> > > In all serious, it is difficult to tell. Releasing them in stages cant work, so we have to get them in one lump. We have a 900 skill balance patch coming in the next couple of months - that could help pave the way for new elites. Or it could signal elites are done and they are focused on sorting what exists out going forward.
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> > > Im not expecting to see any outside of a proper large scale content drop if we ever get those again. They are struggling to deliver right now and Im unconvinced they are able squeeze elites in even if they want to.
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> > They can sell them individually. LW episodes = login to get for free. Icebrood Saga especs = pay. Seems fair to me.
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> I 100% disagree with the concept of buying elites. I dont really believe Anet would stoop that low either. A future new player is going to baulk at buying expacs, living world and then on top of that new trait lines as well.
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> No, they cant sell elites. The backlash would be tremendous I am certain of that
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Well, if you're a new player you get the especs with the LW episodes perhaps? For a slightly larger gem price? It seems easy to me to work out a fair shake for everyone. As someone who logs in daily and gets the. episodes for free Id gladly pay for especs.
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> @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > > > Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".
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> > > > What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
> > > > I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect
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> > > I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.
> > Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.
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> Ah, well, either way. I think (almost) everyone has come to the conclusion "We would really really x100 really like new especs but I doubt it will ever happen". I've found when it come to content releases anet leaves me floating in this pool of doubt and disappointment, so best not to hope for anything in particular.
Would you pay for a new round of e-specs?
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> @"Randulf.7614" said:
> In all serious, it is difficult to tell. Releasing them in stages cant work, so we have to get them in one lump. We have a 900 skill balance patch coming in the next couple of months - that could help pave the way for new elites. Or it could signal elites are done and they are focused on sorting what exists out going forward.
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> Im not expecting to see any outside of a proper large scale content drop if we ever get those again. They are struggling to deliver right now and Im unconvinced they are able squeeze elites in even if they want to.
They can sell them individually. LW episodes = login to get for free. Icebrood Saga especs = pay. Seems fair to me.
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> @"Jayden Reese.9542" said:
> zero. like you know even if 4 more episodes at 2 month per you in 2021 basically and they won't be in those
If the saga is supposed to be expansion level what prevents them from releasing a new round of especs(one for each) as a paid content release? I wouldn't mind paying for a new round of especs.
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> @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> > > Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".
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> > What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
> > I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect
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> I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.
Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.
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Core Tyria is better experienced without mounts. Especially if you're a F2P guy who is trying the game out to see if you like it.
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> @"ZeftheWicked.3076" said:
> You missplaced your numbers in title. Pretty sure you wanted to say 2200.
lol Im trying to be serious here.
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> @"Randulf.7614" said:
> 3720 to 1, same as successfully navigating an asteroid field
What makes you say that?
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> @"Zexanima.7851" said:
> Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".
What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect
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What are the odds we will see a new round of especs this year?
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Both have their place in all game modes. Generally speaking, SB has more pvp tools.
New E-Specs in 2020?
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> @"Randulf.7614" said:
> > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > @"Amaranthe.3578" said:
> > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > > The amount of time needed to create and balance 9 new elite specs is far too big for them to be released outside of an expansion.
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> > > > > It's far too big a task to be done as living world.. and even if it was done and Anet decided to release another expansion in the future people would quickly start to ask questions like.. why should we have to pay for this expansion when all the features in it we've been getting for free over the last few years.
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> > > > > The biggest problem with promiting messages like.. Expansion like content.
> > > > > Give people things for free and they will expect you to continue to do so.
> > > >
> > > > I wouldn't mind paying for the e-specs separately if the LW gives expac-level maps and features.
> > >
> > > The amount of pay to win rage that would cause though xD
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> > Since when paid DLC is p2w?
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> It's not necs that it would be p2w, there would be a huge cry about it nonetheless. Anet have admitted in the past that elites have steadily caused a power creep over the years. It is a natural assumption therefore that a new elite would cause a new power creep. And since you exclusively are purchasing that power, that argument would be made (loudly).
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> I'm not sure I agree with the reasoning, but I can understand the complaint
Stupid arguements shouldn't be the reason for a desicion. Like I said, if youre mainly a spvp/wvwvw player you're buying the expac for the especs ANYWAYS.
So, instead of playing 40 bucks or so for a huge expac you get free expac level content and just pay a bit for the especs. Anyone who would actually argue against that shouldn't be taken seriously.