bladezero.9470 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Nobody cares that you tried to make interesting and challenging content. The jungle was a failure. Just nerf it already. Either that or give us better pathways to finish legendaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 There are enough soloable HP’s in HoT to max all skill lines. I’m not sure what legendary weapons have to do with hero challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Well you can buy the funirary essences in pof and finish legendaries the easy way mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Play WvW for a few hours and just buy all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Soul.5178 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I find it hard to believe that OP needs to do these Hero Points solo when there are plenty of Hero Point trains going on all the time. Additionally, Heart of Thorns was nerfed early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladezero.9470 Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 I need Gift of Maguuma Mastery and I play pretty exclusively PvP I'd just like to finish this garbage while I queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usnedward.9023 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"bladezero.9470" said: > Nobody cares that you tried to make interesting and challenging content. The jungle was a failure. Just nerf it already. > > Either that or give us better pathways to finish legendaries. > @"bladezero.9470" said: > I need Gift of Maguuma Mastery > > and I play pretty exclusively PvP > > I'd just like to finish this garbage while I queue. So you are pretty much just PvP and want an easy button? Not gonna happen. Put in the time like the rest of us have. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I've seen some really skilled players able to solo them it's called "Hero Challenge" for a reason, what's the point calling them Hero Challenge if an unskilled player can bulldoze through them alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenev.5289 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"crepuscular.9047" said: > I've seen some really skilled players able to solo them > it's called "Hero Challenge" for a reason, what's the point calling them Hero Challenge if an unskilled player can bulldoze through them alone Well, to be fair, any scmuck with a Necromancer should be able to faceroll over most Hero Point Challenges. I've done it myself; summon more minions for more win. I agree with this sentiment though - I like HoT hero points because they require strategy in low man groups; the only one that comes close in PoF is the branded pedistool in the desert bunnylands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"crepuscular.9047" said: > I've seen some really skilled players able to solo them > it's called "Hero Challenge" for a reason, what's the point calling them Hero Challenge if an unskilled player can bulldoze through them alone The HC's in HoT/PoF where one need only commune, and all of the HC's in core are also called Hero Challenges. That's not to say that HoT Champion challenges should become Vets, just that the name Hero Challenge has no connection to actual challenge. They're called Hero Challenges because MMO developers dress up content using names that players expect to find in such entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonCrash.6713 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 If you don't want to put the time to do it, just buy the legendary in the tp. Stop asking for nerfs, this game is already way too easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"bladezero.9470" said: > Nobody cares that you tried to make interesting and challenging content. I do. I'm glad that they tried; PoF was a nice break, but now it's sort of dull since I can manage the hero challenges even on a fully spec'd healer. > The jungle was a failure. Just nerf it already. On the contrary, the jungle maps are among the game's most popular content for people who do stuff multiple times. > Either that or give us better pathways to finish legendaries. Do you mean map completion for the legendary? You can do that in PoF instead (using a slight different formula). Or, as many have suggested, hero trains are frequent. Join one of them via LFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelian Omenkind.2470 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 My only complaint with HoT HPs are where a combat challenge pits you against a Veteran something that’s as hard to kill solo as an Elite or Champ. I get that maybe they don’t want to add champ bag drops or whatever, but the difficulty is way too high to solo like a regular vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 For those mentioning "do it in PoF instead" - remember, there are four (or is it five?) legendaries that can't be made in PoF. The Collection-based Gen 2 legendaries are strictly HoT, and on the wiki it seems Eureka is as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizel.8175 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Massively **Multiplayer** Online Role-Playing Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maikimaik.1974 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 PLEASE stop requesting that something gets easier. If something is hard for a long time, it's supposed to be hard. You either have to get better or get help from other players, it's as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallLaw.9260 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"bladezero.9470" said: > Nobody cares that you tried to make interesting and challenging content. HOT expac had some great content - most players like something interesting and challenging. > The jungle was a failure. Hardly, it gave people fresh maps with complicity which provided replaybility and many hours of gameplay. > Either that or give us better pathways to finish legendaries. Seems like you want an easy alternative but have failed to even suggest another way. What about this? There are 40 regular HoT _Hero Challenges_, and if you find them too much to handle and can't work with other players to tackle them, how would you like to complete 600 regular HCs instead? I agree, devs should give a tedious boring grind options for those who don't want "interesting" content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstealer.5978 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I am of the mind this nothing more than a "git gud or go home" kinda thing. As most have already said, many of the HP's are soloable or require no more than a couple of guildies/friends to faceroll them.. surely you can muster a couple of extra pairs of hands. HP trains run most days at varying times of day, just jump in one or.. get good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemis.6781 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"Raizel.8175" said: > Massively **Multiplayer** Online Role-Playing Game. Which simply means there's hundreds and thousands of people on line at the same time. It does not mean we all have to work together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goettel.4389 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 HoT is amazing such as it is, don't touch it <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I don't mind nerfing HoT HPs. This is not relevant content, it's just character progression gate. No reason to make it unnecessary unpleasant experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve The Cynic.3217 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"artemis.6781" said: > > @"Raizel.8175" said: > > Massively **Multiplayer** Online Role-Playing Game. > > Which simply means there's hundreds and thousands of people on line at the same time. It does not mean we all have to work together. You're right. It doesn't mean we *have* to work together. It means we ***can*** work together if we can't make something work when we try it by ourselves. I suck hard enough that I can't solo most of the champion HCs in HoT. That just means I have to look for other players to help out ("/map anyone for insert-name-of-HP?") or similar. I give back, too - if someone shouts the same thing and I've already done it, I'll show up to help, and if I find the way to shortcut a nasty JP (Loreclaw Expanse, for example, where there are *always* dead people in the flamethrower part), I'll sit there with a tag up to help people find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mea.5491 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 No. Just hop on a HP train and get all the HoT HPs in an hour or two. If you want to 100% solo everything, go and play single player games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner.4621 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Please don't. I for one appreciate the fact that I have improved enough as a player that the Hero Challenges that I used to not be able to do as my main class even sometimes in groups on more survivable marauder gear, now I am able to do solo on full zerk gear. It's a very clear measure of my own personal growth as a player, much more than any achievement points will ever be. Edit: The only one I still don't seem to be able to solo on my thief is the Balth champ in Auric Basin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > I don't mind nerfing HoT HPs. This is not relevant content, it's just character progression gate. No reason to make it unnecessary unpleasant experience. What is unpleasant for you is just one more thing to love about HoT for players like myself. HoT is easily my favorite part of this game. My top 3 favorite maps are all HoT maps. To me, going in and nerfing it at this point would be a huge slap in the face, particularly considering we were just given an expansion that attempted to address concerns like these. Let HoT be HoT. Use the PoF model (champions-on-demand moved to the bounty system with HP challenges as solo content) moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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