Danny.8596 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I truly hate this thing in gaming where you go back in flashbacks to play as other characters. Hate is sooooo very much. Is there a way to bug it out so I get to play as MY character with the skills I selected in order to defeat enemies in battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 You can party up with another player who is the instance owner and let them take the role of Caithe. That’s about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseofGilead.8907 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 What JAFW said. Only way to avoid it is to play with someone else and have them start the instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlinvf.1358 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Or just slog through it, and never touch it again... since thats what you're gonna end up doing anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > You can party up with another player who is the instance owner and let them take the role of Caithe. That’s about it. Heh unless you happen to be playing an engi using kits. In which case it will screw with you in other ways unless they've actually gone back and fixed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Lol seen it all now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesacon.8735 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 If you want to do the luminescent armor collections, you'll want to drink bleach by the end of the collections. Mostly because of caithe driving like a boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"Danny.8596" said: > I truly hate this thing in gaming where you go back in flashbacks to play as other characters. > Hate is sooooo very much. > > Is there a way to bug it out so I get to play as MY character with the skills I selected in order to defeat enemies in battle? > Agreed. Particularly as this required me to act in a manner I found immoral. A flashback scene showing Caithe engaged in her horrible behavior is one thing, having my character do it is another. Ultimately Caithe is absolved of her guilt because she was not in control of her body at the time. We were Quantum Leaping into her body acting in her stead. This chapter ruined the entire season for me and left me with a reduced connection to my main character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseofGilead.8907 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"Ashen.2907" said: > A flashback scene showing Caithe engaged in her horrible behavior is one thing, having my character do it is another. Ultimately Caithe is absolved of her guilt because she was not in control of her body at the time. We were Quantum Leaping into her body acting in her stead. We didn't go back in time and take over her body; we witnessed the flashback dream sequence from her point of view (from the memory seeds). So, she's definitely not absolved of her guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"RoseofGilead.8907" said: > > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > A flashback scene showing Caithe engaged in her horrible behavior is one thing, having my character do it is another. Ultimately Caithe is absolved of her guilt because she was not in control of her body at the time. We were Quantum Leaping into her body acting in her stead. > > We didn't go back in time and take over her body; we witnessed the flashback dream sequence from her point of view (from the memory seeds). So, she's definitely not absolved of her guilt. I disagree. My armor took damage during this process. This would not be the case if I was merely remotely viewing a flashback sequence IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starhunter.6015 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > @"RoseofGilead.8907" said: > > > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > > A flashback scene showing Caithe engaged in her horrible behavior is one thing, having my character do it is another. Ultimately Caithe is absolved of her guilt because she was not in control of her body at the time. We were Quantum Leaping into her body acting in her stead. > > > > We didn't go back in time and take over her body; we witnessed the flashback dream sequence from her point of view (from the memory seeds). So, she's definitely not absolved of her guilt. > > I disagree. > > My armor took damage during this process. This would not be the case if I was merely remotely viewing a flashback sequence IMO. It was all memories and flash backs, no time travel. The armor taking damage is simply just the game mechanics following normal rules of combat and damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseofGilead.8907 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > @"RoseofGilead.8907" said: > > > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > > A flashback scene showing Caithe engaged in her horrible behavior is one thing, having my character do it is another. Ultimately Caithe is absolved of her guilt because she was not in control of her body at the time. We were Quantum Leaping into her body acting in her stead. > > > > We didn't go back in time and take over her body; we witnessed the flashback dream sequence from her point of view (from the memory seeds). So, she's definitely not absolved of her guilt. > > I disagree. > > My armor took damage during this process. This would not be the case if I was merely remotely viewing a flashback sequence IMO. We didn't time travel, and we didn't jump into her body during that point of her timeline. We used memory seeds to access her memories via the Dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > @"RoseofGilead.8907" said: > > > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > > A flashback scene showing Caithe engaged in her horrible behavior is one thing, having my character do it is another. Ultimately Caithe is absolved of her guilt because she was not in control of her body at the time. We were Quantum Leaping into her body acting in her stead. > > > > We didn't go back in time and take over her body; we witnessed the flashback dream sequence from her point of view (from the memory seeds). So, she's definitely not absolved of her guilt. > > I disagree. > > My armor took damage during this process. This would not be the case if I was merely remotely viewing a flashback sequence IMO. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Newly_Awakened#In_the_instance > Maybe if you knew...more about her past. I can give you memory seeds. **They will...allow you to search her memories for places that are significant...to her** > You'll view one of Caithe's memories through her eyes. You will feel in control, but you will be Caithe. Important events will play out as they did in days gone by. I suggest playing that episode over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasculio.2914 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"Danny.8596" said: > I truly hate this thing in gaming where you go back in flashbacks to play as other characters. > Hate is sooooo very much. I actually really like that kind of mechanic. Overused it can get annoying, sure, like anything else. But it allows the developers to be creative and add something different to the game once in a while. The original Guild Wars had the Bonus Mission Pack - a group of missions in which we played as other characters through the story of the world. During all those missions, we had the skills of those characters, and it was a nice and innovative way of playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I don't mind a brief flashback. But I dislike when every character going through the story has to play exactly the same way. The game has 9 professions with vary different styles; part of the fun in replaying is utilizing those differences. But it's what the devs wanted for that episode (and a couple of others where there's no choice of skills). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Soul.5178 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 What an odd thing to hate so passionately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny.8596 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 I play mmos because I get to make my character. I get to choose my class. Being steamrolled into playing some character I hate with a playstyle I hate is bad game design. If they want people to play as Caith they can sell a single player stealth game with her as the main character. Don't shove it in the mmo experience which is about building and leveling a player made character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > > @"RoseofGilead.8907" said: > > > > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > > > A flashback scene showing Caithe engaged in her horrible behavior is one thing, having my character do it is another. Ultimately Caithe is absolved of her guilt because she was not in control of her body at the time. We were Quantum Leaping into her body acting in her stead. > > > > > > We didn't go back in time and take over her body; we witnessed the flashback dream sequence from her point of view (from the memory seeds). So, she's definitely not absolved of her guilt. > > > > I disagree. > > > > My armor took damage during this process. This would not be the case if I was merely remotely viewing a flashback sequence IMO. > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Newly_Awakened#In_the_instance > > > Maybe if you knew...more about her past. I can give you memory seeds. **They will...allow you to search her memories for places that are significant...to her** > > > You'll view one of Caithe's memories through her eyes. You will feel in control, but you will be Caithe. Important events will play out as they did in days gone by. > > I suggest playing that episode over again. How does a memory seed damage my armor? How is it me observing her memories if I am in control of my actions during the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"Danny.8596" said: > I play mmos because I get to make my character. I get to choose my class. Being steamrolled into playing some character I hate with a playstyle I hate is bad game design. If they want people to play as Caith they can sell a single player stealth game with her as the main character. Don't shove it in the mmo experience which is about building and leveling a player made character. "I have to do something differently for 10 minutes this is awful" Really They even make sure that whenever they do anything like that you are super broken OP. 8 second stealth while you are super fast and ATTACKS DONT REVEAL? Besides the centaur spamming instance there isn't much actual combat. I just did the achievements + challenge yesterday and it took my friend and me around 15 attempts. Takes some getting used to, but when 5 out of your 10 skills are dodges or ways to avoid damage there really isnt much to complain about in light combat instances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachenon.5270 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 In the immortal words of Blaine and Antoine, "Hated it!" That one needs the option to play through, if you so desire, or view a brief cutscene so you can get back to playing YOUR character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I just happened to replayed chapters last night for the achievements, I still feel it's the best story instances in living world, and I find her skills are OP compared to base thief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"crepuscular.9047" said: > I just happened to replayed chapters last night for the achievements, I still feel it's the best story instances in living world, and I find her skills are OP compared to base thief Just out of curiosity, and to confirm, the best instances are those where you do not play your own character's build/etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 > @"Ashen.2907" said: > > @"crepuscular.9047" said: > > I just happened to replayed chapters last night for the achievements, I still feel it's the best story instances in living world, and I find her skills are OP compared to base thief > > Just out of curiosity, and to confirm, the best instances are those where you do not play your own character's build/etc? from story perspective, yes, i thoroughly enjoyed it last night perma stealth and bashed those asura head inside their body, and blade dancing around centaurs to shave them naked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyGal.8365 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Why? I loved playing as Caithe, such awesome skills, hope we some day play as Rytlock in some story instance or maybe even Trahearne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moira Shalaar.5620 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 This was hands down the worst story step in all of GW2. I dislike being forced to use Caithes skills, OP though they may be, but I HATED the story with all the passion I can summon for something that is ultimately fictional nonsense. This storyline has left me with a deep and abiding distrust for the story team that has not lightened over the intervening years. Morally repugnant things happen, and that is bad enough, but being forced to participate in morally repugnant acts, even as a “passive observer” disgusts me beyond description. I love the game overall, and in general support and respect the developers, but this story in particular has marred the GW2 brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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