Evil.1580 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Both Tempest and Weaver, introduce 1h sword and warhorn... While we can still play a staff, none of the elite specs are concentrated around it. Introducing a bow in the new elite spec would be great, magic archer or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Warhorn was a last min low anamastion add on to anet trying to make a sword melee class. I guess weaver was the demand for a sword class (all though its a realy good ranged dps set up for ele). I just want full transparency on the next elite spec. Tempest was last min rushed weaver was deleted and remade. I no longer trust anet to make any thing with ele behind close doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"Jski.6180" said: > Warhorn was a last min low anamastion add on to anet trying to make a sword melee class. I guess weaver was the demand for a sword class (all though its a realy good ranged dps set up for ele). > > I just want full transparency on the next elite spec. Tempest was last min rushed weaver was deleted and remade. I no longer trust anet to make any thing with ele behind close doors. Could you become a anet employee and push ur agenda please....thanks the be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"Jski.6180" said: > Warhorn was a last min low anamastion add on to anet trying to make a sword melee class. I guess weaver was the demand for a sword class (all though its a realy good ranged dps set up for ele). > > I just want full transparency on the next elite spec. Tempest was last min rushed weaver was deleted and remade. I no longer trust anet to make any thing with ele behind close doors. To be fair, Weaver does look like it would take a dam long time to make, its just unfortunate that Tempest was rushed out so quickly instead (Although Tempest wasn't exactly a bad spec throughout HoT) Sword mage was something alot of people wanted and if players demand it, then Anet would oblige as it would of increased the people buying PoF because of Weaver I just hope once they sort out the mess Weaver is in that they then start to give Tempest more support for PvP and WvW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"bOTEB.1573" said: > Both Tempest and Weaver, introduce 1h sword and warhorn... > > While we can still play a staff, none of the elite specs are concentrated around it. > > Introducing a bow in the new elite spec would be great, magic archer or something similar. > I would love Ele to have a Longbow, It could look cool and be balanced at the same time :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I like to see a foces main hand mages will wells. A slow long ranged siege mages maybe even make it put up aoe at its feet to a ground buff its own skill kind of like taking a kneel with dead eye but in a magic way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vissarion.6509 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Give us GreatSword pls., ok thx: D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 We all know you're getting torch next :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conqueror.3682 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Can be rifle, please? magic infused technology c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Well the options are slim (non-offhand): mace - typically melee axe - typically melee hammer - typically melee shortbow longbow greatsword - typically melee rifle (unlikely) pistol (unlikely) I'm inclined to think if it is a ranged weapon following convention it'd be shortbow , 900 range & likely condi based. It would need some focus on burn/bleed + (and stun+ daze + knockdown/pull/launch +blind +immob + cripple + chill+ vulnerability + weakness) since I don't believe elementalists use poison , confusion, or torment (taunt , slow , fear too). Both the fire and arcane line already provide burning on critical hits (while in fire attunement) with an internal cooldown. It is also highly likely torch will be given to eles rather than shields. I hope that the next elite spec weapon is a mainhand since scepter isn't a very strong option due to delay and low AOE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theros.1390 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I would love a short bow ele, with traps as new skills. With all attenuements and arrows which can have differents utilities (TP, Daze in Air, Shield, immobilizing in earth... whathever), I really think there is something cool to have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme.3602 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 We want longbow 1500 range! Listen to us, boys. And buff staff ele, not nerf it. Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Use pistol conceptually, but make it a hand-crossbow. That'd be unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lLobo.7960 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Especs are not really tied to the weapon. - Tempest is about staying longer on attunements to unlock overloads. Its about AoE and group effects. - Weaver is about changing attunements fast and combining them for extra skills and bonuses. And while the attunements decide what the ele is doing (dmg, control, support), ele has access to: - Staff: Long range, slow cast, long-lasting AoE fields; - Scepter: mid range, single target with aoe bursts; - Dagger: short range, fast cast, PbAoE with strong burst; - Focus: self defense and mid range AoE control; - Warhorn: mid to short range, aoe support (buffs and auras) and control; - Sword: melee range, single target/cleave bursts with some evasion/mobility So yea, we are missing a long range single target fast casting weapon. Longbow is very likely to be it, both thematically and mechanically. Not only that, but... We got conjures for (fiery) greatsword, (flaming) axe, (frost) shortbow, (lightening) hammer, and (earth) shield. This leaves us with(out): mace, torch, pistols, riffle, and longbow. From those, Longbow seems to fit better the long-range fast-casting single-target option. And we already got MH espec with weaver and OH espec with tempest. Makes sense to get a 2Her next. And although Id love to play a dual pistol spell slinger, I think that is likely to be more likely to end up with mesmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dace.8173 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I'd love a longbow. Though a magical rifle or a pistol that had a hand crossbow skin would also rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath Forge Tempete.1645 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 > @"Teratus.2859" said: > We all know you're getting torch next :P when I see all the "kitty" main hand weapon we have ... it would be depressing to have another off hand weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddoctor.2738 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 > @"lLobo.7960" said: > We got conjures for (fiery) greatsword, (flaming) axe, (frost) shortbow, (lightening) hammer, and (earth) shield. > This leaves us with(out): mace, torch, pistols, riffle, and longbow. > > From those, Longbow seems to fit better the long-range fast-casting single-target option. And we already got MH espec with weaver and OH espec with tempest. Makes sense to get a 2Her next. And although Id love to play a dual pistol spell slinger, I think that is likely to be more likely to end up with mesmers. > Yeah I highly doubt we'll get a weapon that is also a conjure (or at least before we get the others first) so a longbow is my choice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganathar.4956 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 The weapon almost doesn't matter. If the trait line and the spec mechanic are not designed to be powerful, then we will end up with yet another failed spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhaid Zhem.6508 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I want a technomage with rifle and gadgets ; fresh air rifle aha hahaAHAHAHAHAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 If its not a main hand wepon or a 2h wepon (all though that is a main hand wepon) your going to be locked with at best 1,000 ranged with scpter. There is a lack of longe ranged 1h wepon on the ele kit and an elite cant fix this problem. Staff is core ele best and only long ranged wepon its not even an attk ranged wepon but more of a AoE control wepon. The long ranged elite needs to have fast attks like a bow or gun but still have "magic" animations attached to it. I suggest a foces main hand or a pure magic class where your not using your wepon at all to hit or fire but only to make your spells cast. I would like the 1 skills to act like falling attks where they are lobed at targets or maxed ranged making them non projectals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scureuil.4052 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 It could be "bare hand". You have no weapon, you deal no damage, but you can dance and cheer for your comrades And no shoes. Dancing bare feet is a must, even if you won't run fast that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhaid Zhem.6508 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Or a shovel, you can dig your own tomb even before enemies kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil.1580 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 We need something with great single target damage potential and great range potential. Not talking only about weapons but spec too. This would be the exact opposite of the tempest (buff+close range aoe overloads) and weaver (close range). It would be fun too. IMO and lite single target oriented spec with a longbow is a great idea as some of you already suggested. I really like my ele but in every game mod (be pve/pvp/wvw) it seems it lacks something. and cant give competitive gameplay vs any content. We should have a build which is awesome for PVP, we should have another build which is awesome for WvW and we should have a 3rd build which gives us good PvE options. I am not here to cry about buffs but only a fresh spec which is simple and effective enough to make other professions fans to try and fall in love with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorani.7205 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I agree with the OP: Elementalist needs a single target focused weapon for long range engagement + utility (and skill 4 & 5) skills that help you in melee situations (since we can't weapon swap). A "spell archer" is very close to what we had with Dragon Hunter, so I think that Longbow might be out. My 2 cents would be on Mace to be made a 1200 range weapon (because it is not used that much yet on Elites). My guess for utilities would be some sort of summon (minions, spirits etc.) and a buff to conjured weapons with the new trait line (which can be the "alternative" close combat weapon). Attuning to the "elemental spirit's element" would buff/heal the spirit: e.g. you have summoned a Fire Spirit, which is circling you, dealing damage to foes in melee range. Everytime to attune to Fire, you heal the Fire Spirit by x points and you gain Fury. Earth could provide resistance, Water dish out Chill and Air could reveal etc. (see how I added some condis Ele currently lacks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I'd love to see a Lavamancer using Axes as a 1200 range weapon. The spec would only use Earth and fire attunements, It would have the regular F1-F4 skills, with F1 being the standard fire, F2 being the standard earth. F3 would be Magma atunement, which would be more of a fiery ranged dps oriented attunement with some flowing fire fields and lava pools that cause a special effect "molten metal" that would reduce enemy armour, but most damage being ranged single-target projectiles. (to deviate from the archetype that ele is only good at large targets). F4 would be Obsidian Attunement, which would be more defensive, with shorter range skills, but with skills that proc a protective shell that reduces a % incoming damage while doing passive fire damage to enemies in melee range (~300 or less). That would allow him to be a sort of ranged duelist, switching from high dps offensive damage to shorter range defensive skills when required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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