Svarty.8019 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > > @"Svarty.8019" said: > > > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > > > > > > Rev still gives boons to 10 targets. > > > > > > > What is it using to do this, please? > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Draconic_Echo Uhm... not sure that does what you think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 > @"Svarty.8019" said: > > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > > > @"Svarty.8019" said: > > > > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > > > > > > > > Rev still gives boons to 10 targets. > > > > > > > > > > What is it using to do this, please? > > > > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Draconic_Echo > > Uhm... not sure that does what you think it does. https://imgur.com/a/gkdsPBX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said: > > > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > > > @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said: > > > > > @"LetoII.3782" said: > > > > > > @"RisenHowl.2419" said: > > > > > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > > > > double cele radiance fb's gogogo > > > > > > > > > > > > There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man.... > > > > > > > > > > Agreed > > > > > The temptation is always there to diversify, but it doesn't scale 1:1. When you try to get a little bit better with a secondary role you end up A LOT worse in your main role. > > > > > > > > Shhhh. Everything should be cele with stars sigil and runes. Dye armor in rainbow formation, and wiggle your arms in combat all the while shrieking with a high pitch. This display will strike fear into the heart of most enemies. > > > > > > > > D: > > > > > > Wait... are you on TC? > > > > I can only confirm that at least 2 people in this quote chain have ever graced the Holy Lands of the Tarnished Coast. > > > > D: > > Make it three... Four o/ But only with protest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > > 30 thiefs and 5 Mesmers. > > > > No. 25 thieves, 5 mesmers and 5 rangers. > > They'd do so good vs a group of fb,scourges, revs etc lol The TMR zergs will DESTROY everything in their path! Just wait and see! Don't say I didn't warn all of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasai.3549 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 We may go back to Pirate Shipping for abit. My one hope is that Portal Bombing is gonna be viable again for Zergbusting because right now, boonballs are so cancerous that they straight up annihilate any advancing party with no consequence. Heck, it's literally just a Tag driving while everyone spills their AoEs on the tag. And it works. And I hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God.2708 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 > @"Yasai.3549" said: > We may go back to Pirate Shipping for abit. > > My one hope is that Portal Bombing is gonna be viable again for Zergbusting because right now, boonballs are so cancerous that they straight up annihilate any advancing party with no consequence. > > Heck, it's literally just a Tag driving while everyone spills their AoEs on the tag. > > And it works. And I hate it. That is WvW combat since the very beginning. I'm not entirely sure what you are expecting to be different. Zergbusting has always been facilitated by maintaining various offensive characteristics over your opponent, usually surprise and skill in the form of tempo/audacity. It has very very little to do with actual game or class balance. If your portal bomb isn't working it's because it's a bad portal bomb, not because the game isn't 'right' for portal bombing. There are videos going back to the dawn of the game of people playing whack a mole with idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > > 30 thiefs and 5 Mesmers. > > > > No. 25 thieves, 5 mesmers and 5 rangers. > > They'd do so good vs a group of fb,scourges, revs etc lol not exactly at that size, but that group compositions do nearly exist alike; and they don't do horrible against groups half of their size (or smaller), sadly. theres usually some necros and glassy eles inside that too for aoe spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I make full bunker nike warrior. Should stay alive ok If i use full Nomad's gear, gs, sword/shield and snowleopard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 > @"LetoII.3782" said: > Agreed > The temptation is always there to diversify, but it doesn't scale 1:1. When you try to get a little bit better with a secondary role you end up A LOT worse in your main role. true, but an engine is the sum of its parts. hence double fb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 > @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said: > I can only confirm that at least 2 people in this quote chain have ever graced the Holy Lands of the Tarnished Coast. i'm still in denial over this. I was actually in kazo for a short bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babytater.6803 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 I definitely think we will not go back to a pirateship meta and instead move back towards melee balls again. We will see in 5 days though! Exciting :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 > @"Babytater.6803" said: > I definitely think we will not go back to a pirateship meta and instead move back towards melee balls again. We will see in 5 days though! Exciting :) The increase in CD m8 allow it, keychain will be dive trough and cc casters and try to pk. Better positioning will be needed for casters, in compensation, it’s like a bit of everything will be needed rather than stack only aoe classes. Stack lots of fb’s m8 be a reaction until people adapt/understand what we will have. One thing for sure, gaps between aoe will exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duillyn.2697 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 condi meta would be pretty detrimental to this already low population i think, really hoping that doesnt become reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 > @"duillyn.2697" said: > condi meta would be pretty detrimental to this already low population i think, really hoping that doesnt become reality. Yeah I will do my part definetly. The core engineer condi meta today is so strong it usually makes up **at least** 1 player on the map I am on. After the patch? The floodgates will open. I except a 100% increase for several hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 One thing is sure. It will be kitten like it's always been. Best way to win is follow commander like some ameba and smash keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klypto.1703 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Meh this balance patch is pretty much the final nail in the coffin for wvw. Its just going to be a bunch of pve guilds spawn afking it for the rewards because I don't expect anyone to be playing this crap they are trying to push on us going back to horrible condi spamming cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidic.4356 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > double cele radiance fb's gogogo im with u on this, cele havoc/smallscale will be the way to go imo , 2 fbs - 2 necros - 1 scrapper/mes/ele all cele... ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Condition Meta is next in line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 The meta will be more guards and less of every thing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 > @"Jski.6180" said: > The meta will be more guards and less of every thing else. I think that’s just a secure reaction besides start playing inter stuff, people feel insecure if they can kill faster. But damage will still happen...and devs will reduce ally boon targets back to 5 on guard on a later patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 > @"Aeolus.3615" said: > > @"Jski.6180" said: > > The meta will be more guards and less of every thing else. > > I think that’s just a secure reaction besides start playing inter stuff, people feel insecure if they can kill faster. > > But damage will still happen...and devs will reduce ally boon targets back to 5 on guard on a later patch. So right now boons are not the problem when it comes to power dmg its base armor of some classes that the problem. Boons are keeping ppl from being locked down to land that dmg. Sure you will be able to lock ppl down a bit better but now the lock down skills do no dmg making the abitly for ppl to do dmg even worst once they are able to lock ppl down over all. Your simply making every one more tankly so classes that are already too tankly for free are going to be more tankly after this update. Your glass canon are going to be a bit more tankly but that not why ppl play though classes. Its not going to end well and the very update it self NEEDS a update after it a kind of build in part 1 and part 2 the problem is if it dose not come soon enofe wvw will be comply dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babytater.6803 Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Lots of pessimists in here... This patch is healthy for wvw. We need some variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 > @"Jski.6180" said: > > @"Aeolus.3615" said: > > > @"Jski.6180" said: > > > The meta will be more guards and less of every thing else. > > > > I think that’s just a secure reaction besides start playing inter stuff, people feel insecure if they can kill faster. > > > > But damage will still happen...and devs will reduce ally boon targets back to 5 on guard on a later patch. > > So right now boons are not the problem when it comes to power dmg its base armor of some classes that the problem. Boons are keeping ppl from being locked down to land that dmg. Sure you will be able to lock ppl down a bit better but now the lock down skills do no dmg making the abitly for ppl to do dmg even worst once they are able to lock ppl down over all. Your simply making every one more tankly so classes that are already too tankly for free are going to be more tankly after this update. Your glass canon are going to be a bit more tankly but that not why ppl play though classes. Its not going to end well and the very update it self NEEDS a update after it a kind of build in part 1 and part 2 the problem is if it dose not come soon enofe wvw will be comply dead. Don’t take the current changes for granted, CC skills will be updated overtime, and there were quite some busted cc skils, I don’t mind the change since damage will happens and updates will happen to the CC skills, as in add some damage back or giving them other kind of buff/effect. Imo lack of damage once only punishes limites played in a way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 where is sov? we need his input on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 > @"Babytater.6803" said: > Lots of pessimists in here... This patch is healthy for wvw. We need some variation. You need guards to support your guards before the patch and you will need them after the patch that not realty variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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