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We need Reworks on the functionality for some mechanics and skills, cause for some reason allot of mechs go against their general design for all specks.

I hope the EoD specks are the next coming of god, and not another dumb PoF rule of spam cool. They have amazing base to work with but for some reason they go out of their way to copy crap from other shitty games. I will not survive another Release Scourge. A PBE test server would help them allot plop it in a Pre Order bonus and bam you get to test the new skills and stuff.

Also the nerfs were OK the problem is the time it took to do them, also some numerical buff changes on some dead builds could have helped add some new builds to the stale meta.

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Honestly they've nerfed too much, before it felt like everyone was OP, now it feels like only a few things are viable and they just keep nerfing until nothing is. I think they need to reset and bring a lot of things back but properly tuned for intended role. They need to think harder about what individual classes should and shouldn't bring to the table and make each class bring something unique and perform particular roles.

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> @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > @"Kuma.1503" said:

> > Nerf phantasmal warlock! I saw it do damage the other day and I'm pretty sure that's unintended.

>

> I want what you are taking.

> Sincerely, Mesmer player.

 

Warlock was designed to be cannon fodder and cannon fodder shouldn't do damage.

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> @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > I currently have 3 stealth spells on my mesmer because it's my only way to counter lich form

> >

>

> Cough, feedback

God damn it, you are too fast I was prepping to link the skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Feedback . I'll one up you though bam https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_(effect) . But I think this one works best https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink , then again making people kill themselves is funnier.

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> @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > > I currently have 3 stealth spells on my mesmer because it's my only way to counter lich form

> > >

> >

> > Cough, feedback

> God kitten it, you are too fast I was prepping to link the skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Feedback . I'll one up you though bam https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_(effect) . But I think this one works best https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink , then again making people kill themselves is funnier.

 

mirror is not good enough, you reflect 1 noodle ( cost you dodge ) deal 3k dmg, another, deal 3k dmg, and then you are done, and take 7,5k hit.

and that is assuming RNG cooldown aligns

unless you mean that shitty ass healing skill

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> @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > > > I currently have 3 stealth spells on my mesmer because it's my only way to counter lich form

> > > >

> > >

> > > Cough, feedback

> > God kitten it, you are too fast I was prepping to link the skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Feedback . I'll one up you though bam https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_(effect) . But I think this one works best https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink , then again making people kill themselves is funnier.

>

> mirror is not good enough, you reflect 1 noodle ( cost you dodge ) deal 3k dmg, another, deal 3k dmg, and then you are done, and take 7,5k hit.

> and that is assuming RNG cooldown aligns

> unless you mean that kitten kitten healing skill

There is also fine I think https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Master_of_Fragmentation combo with the signet trait bam more reflection or https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Warden%27s_Feedback this one it seems the easiest to use. For some reason mesmerer does have allot of projectile reflection and denial.

 

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> @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > > @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > > > > I currently have 3 stealth spells on my mesmer because it's my only way to counter lich form

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Cough, feedback

> > > God kitten it, you are too fast I was prepping to link the skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Feedback . I'll one up you though bam https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_(effect) . But I think this one works best https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink , then again making people kill themselves is funnier.

> >

> > mirror is not good enough, you reflect 1 noodle ( cost you dodge ) deal 3k dmg, another, deal 3k dmg, and then you are done, and take 7,5k hit.

> > and that is assuming RNG cooldown aligns

> > unless you mean that kitten kitten healing skill

> There is also fine I think https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Master_of_Fragmentation combo with the signet trait bam more reflection or https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Warden%27s_Feedback this one it seems the easiest to use. For some reason mesmerer does have allot of projectile reflection and denial.

>

 

I use master of fragmentation but never really got to punish necro with it, but im playing power so Im almost forced to insta shatter so no clone for big disorts for me.

also focus reflect.... yea.. I remember throwing warden, standing inside her model and having projectiles still hit me, I will never trust her again, dunno about focus 4 traited since I would have to not only run joke weapon but also joke traitline to test it lul

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> @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > > > @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > > > > > I currently have 3 stealth spells on my mesmer because it's my only way to counter lich form

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cough, feedback

> > > > God kitten it, you are too fast I was prepping to link the skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Feedback . I'll one up you though bam https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_(effect) . But I think this one works best https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink , then again making people kill themselves is funnier.

> > >

> > > mirror is not good enough, you reflect 1 noodle ( cost you dodge ) deal 3k dmg, another, deal 3k dmg, and then you are done, and take 7,5k hit.

> > > and that is assuming RNG cooldown aligns

> > > unless you mean that kitten kitten healing skill

> > There is also fine I think https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Master_of_Fragmentation combo with the signet trait bam more reflection or https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Warden%27s_Feedback this one it seems the easiest to use. For some reason mesmerer does have allot of projectile reflection and denial.

> >

>

> I use master of fragmentation but never really got to punish necro with it, but im playing power so Im almost forced to insta shatter so no clone for big disorts for me.

> also focus reflect.... yea.. I remember throwing warden, standing inside her model and having projectiles still hit me, I will never trust her again, dunno about focus 4 traited since I would have to not only run joke weapon but also joke traitline to test it lul

See if its stupid and it works it is not stupid. I've been running warrior with defense(pretty dead and bad traitline now) with mace and shield it doesn't do much but it is satisfying getting all those DEs, Rangers and Lich necros hitting themselves. My issue is that the build doesn't really have proper role and doesn't bring much that anything else would deliver better.

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> @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > > > I currently have 3 stealth spells on my mesmer because it's my only way to counter lich form

> > > >

> > >

> > > Cough, feedback

> > God kitten it, you are too fast I was prepping to link the skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Feedback . I'll one up you though bam https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_(effect) . But I think this one works best https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink , then again making people kill themselves is funnier.

>

> mirror is not good enough, you reflect 1 noodle ( cost you dodge ) deal 3k dmg, another, deal 3k dmg, and then you are done, and take 7,5k hit.

> and that is assuming RNG cooldown aligns

> unless you mean that kitten kitten healing skill

 

If at least it was a 100% reflect maybe necro would switch targets but the reflect dmg is like 30% of the dmg you would take

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> @"Khalisto.5780" said:

> > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > > @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > > > > I currently have 3 stealth spells on my mesmer because it's my only way to counter lich form

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Cough, feedback

> > > God kitten it, you are too fast I was prepping to link the skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Feedback . I'll one up you though bam https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_(effect) . But I think this one works best https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink , then again making people kill themselves is funnier.

> >

> > mirror is not good enough, you reflect 1 noodle ( cost you dodge ) deal 3k dmg, another, deal 3k dmg, and then you are done, and take 7,5k hit.

> > and that is assuming RNG cooldown aligns

> > unless you mean that kitten kitten healing skill

>

> If at least it was a 100% reflect maybe necro would switch targets but the reflect dmg is like 30% of the dmg you would take

 

it is 100% reflect, you deal as much damage as you would have dealt with the skill, its VERY telling. shows that 3 lich autos can 100%-0 me, but if I reflect 3 of them necro loses 20% hp at best, ranger rapid fire is easy 100-0, but reflected is MAYBE 50% if you are lucky. Mesmer is just a twig thats why

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> @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > @"Khalisto.5780" said:

> > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > > > @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > > > > > I currently have 3 stealth spells on my mesmer because it's my only way to counter lich form

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cough, feedback

> > > > God kitten it, you are too fast I was prepping to link the skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Feedback . I'll one up you though bam https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_(effect) . But I think this one works best https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink , then again making people kill themselves is funnier.

> > >

> > > mirror is not good enough, you reflect 1 noodle ( cost you dodge ) deal 3k dmg, another, deal 3k dmg, and then you are done, and take 7,5k hit.

> > > and that is assuming RNG cooldown aligns

> > > unless you mean that kitten kitten healing skill

> >

> > If at least it was a 100% reflect maybe necro would switch targets but the reflect dmg is like 30% of the dmg you would take

>

> it is 100% reflect, you deal as much damage as you would have dealt with the skill, its VERY telling. shows that 3 lich autos can 100%-0 me, but if I reflect 3 of them necro loses 20% hp at best, ranger rapid fire is easy 100-0, but reflected is MAYBE 50% if you are lucky. Mesmer is just a twig thats why

 

It's not so much Mesmer being a twig so much as you can reflect the lich autos but you can't reflect the exta 1000 vitality and precision lich form gives. You can reflect the rapid fire but you can't reflect the sic em + one wolf pack. It certainly doesn't help that most mesmers are running condi builds so either no power or no precision and never any ferocity.

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> @"ArthurDent.9538" said:

> > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > @"Khalisto.5780" said:

> > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > > @"Vancho.8750" said:

> > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said:

> > > > > > > @"Woltarion.6829" said:

> > > > > > > I currently have 3 stealth spells on my mesmer because it's my only way to counter lich form

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cough, feedback

> > > > > God kitten it, you are too fast I was prepping to link the skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Feedback . I'll one up you though bam https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_(effect) . But I think this one works best https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink , then again making people kill themselves is funnier.

> > > >

> > > > mirror is not good enough, you reflect 1 noodle ( cost you dodge ) deal 3k dmg, another, deal 3k dmg, and then you are done, and take 7,5k hit.

> > > > and that is assuming RNG cooldown aligns

> > > > unless you mean that kitten kitten healing skill

> > >

> > > If at least it was a 100% reflect maybe necro would switch targets but the reflect dmg is like 30% of the dmg you would take

> >

> > it is 100% reflect, you deal as much damage as you would have dealt with the skill, its VERY telling. shows that 3 lich autos can 100%-0 me, but if I reflect 3 of them necro loses 20% hp at best, ranger rapid fire is easy 100-0, but reflected is MAYBE 50% if you are lucky. Mesmer is just a twig thats why

>

> It's not so much Mesmer being a twig so much as you can reflect the lich autos but you can't reflect the exta 1000 vitality and precision lich form gives. You can reflect the rapid fire but you can't reflect the sic em + one wolf pack. It certainly doesn't help that most mesmers are running condi builds so either no power or no precision and never any ferocity.

 

I mean from perspective of power mirage, as cmes I would take probably 10x-15x more effective damage

its just loads of things adding up, more power cuz other classes get might, more hp, more toughness AND more damage

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