Khalisto.5780

> @"Multicolorhipster.9751" said: > Personally i'd go back to playing if SoloQs didn't have to play with teams of any kind in Ranked > And if the combat was actually fun or remotely exciting at all. > > Both of which weren't issues at one point, but those good days are distant memories now. > But no, Season 13 marked the start of Ranked's slow death. > Feb 25th patch finished off PvP entirely > > The bots and low population are annoying sure, and make everything much worse, but its nothing new. > Plenty of games have bots that still turn out successful and enjoyable just like a lot of low-pop games do pretty well with their small communities. > > People might expect that getting into a game. What they don't expect is to be trampled by 2 of the very best players in the game cheesing the matchmaker, or fighting an unkillable Bunker for the entirety of a game while simultaneously being CC spam-locked out of using their skills. I dont think balance itself was the problem, it was more like the last broken promise. They hyped up the community with this big patch and REGULAR UPDATES, 4 to 6 weeks they said. I think the last part was the the main reason ppl left, they were done believing anet. But again, the ones who care moat about balance are vets, and problem seems to be new comes not aticking around, and i believe botting and afking impunity is more of a factor here.

> @"Fueki.4753" said: > > @"Rvannith.8364" said: > > People in Low Gold-Mid Silver (where most of the bots are) probably would see a ban wave as being significantly more beneficial to our game experience > It's very likely that they'll see it very detrimental to the game experience. > A ban wave would result in longer queue times and even worse matches, as the rank disparity in matches with exacerbate. > > Something like that would bring some ppl back, if it wasnt anet it could bring a lot more. By now ppl would think "ok, they banning, lets aee how long they can keep thia bots away"

> @"Filip.7463" said: > Its not ONLY anet s fault that pvp population is low. > > Btw even if u block someone, u can get with or vs him. Yes, thats why i said friend/block list, cuz you can keep track of them there, whenever they're in a pvp map you are safe to queue up

> @"DeanBB.4268" said: > Is this a PvP thing? Cuz I don't understand... :anguished: Yes, wrong forums

i think weaver can have one dodge the day thief can't decap a point

> @"Bazsi.2734" said: > I find it ironic that doing both at the same time would be the bare minimum to maintain this gamemode, yet the poll is about choosing one. Because anet seems to be struggling enough with one and there is at least 50% chance we getting none

Some classes have multiple builds and play atyles right If you see a soulbeast it could be power or condi trapper Cire guardian has 4 viable builds The best way to find out is run to their base pre match and some of them might attack you, so you have a hint what they're using

> @"Filip.7463" said: > > @"Khalisto.5780" said: > > > @"Raiden The Beast.3016" said: > > > Bala bc, when u get banned just create a new ftp acc ... > > > > > > > > > > those bots are farming gold, which means they're useless as free accounts > > U can transfer gold via black lion. Idk if its legal to write the way here. The amount of work to do that is abysmal. You gotta post it and the othet person has to buy it instantly. Unless you selling it cheaper i don't see ppl willing to do that, transfering 100 gold would take hours

Well This fire weaver we have now is a nerfed version of that post feb patch, i mean, Obsidian Flesh is worse and might trait has been nerfed. Even tho, that weaver was bad, so weaver is not better, every thing else is worse, and its counters got gutted So ya, it will get nerfed, so you better start learning how to fight rangers, warriors and most likely condi herald again cuz those classes alomg with necro and supp core guardian will rule pvp after weaver and trapper runes get nerfed

> @"Raiden The Beast.3016" said: > Bala bc, when u get banned just create a new ftp acc ... > > those bots are farming gold, which means they're useless as free accounts

> @"Weerus.3701" said: > > @"Khalisto.5780" said: > > That's very personal > > > > And depends on what build you playing > > > > There are 3 well known weaver builds > > > > Fire, lightning rod and fresh air > > > > I find elementalist in general fun to play > > > > But fire is kinda boring ans fresh air super fun > > > > But you'd find ppl that will disagree with me class and buildwise > > > > So is more about trying a lot of different builds and playstyles to find what you actually have more fun with > > > > > > True, so far im having fun with revenant so far. Will test other options too before fully commiting. > Where would I find fresh air build guide? https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Weaver_-_Freshweaver Not really that good of a guide, but it'll give you the basics Search for grimjack stream for more info, he's the only one pulling out crazy stuff with this build at highest level. I played a fair bit this build, weak against condi and teleporting skill, so not the strongest build right now, specially for someone who is trying it first time.

> @"TheQuickFox.3826" said: > There. That was a terrible struggle but I got it. >  > > Some of my experiences for anyone who likes to achieve the same as lower ranked player: > * It is easy to get teams, just use LFG and join a group that is accepting to all players. > * As silver-3 skilled player I get less than one win per tournament. I guess my amount of wins is around .7 to .8 per tournament. This means that you can get 2 or 3 tournaments with 0 wins in a row if you're unlucky and then two wins per tourney. So, it will take roughly 30 tourneys to win, depending a lot on luck and your skill level. > * If you can, disable your emotions. It will be a hard grind and you will be matched against full platinum teams against which you will have absolutely 0 chance to win. Be prepared to lose a lot. And be happy with every win. > * Stay until the end. If you get a few terrible matches, this does not mean that all of the matches have to be this way. I had a double win after a double loss in the same tourney. > * Expect some player misconduct being used in your favor and against you. You may get players who sabotage your team by being idle, players who rage quit after a terrible match, trolls who choose to join your party and then choose not to click ready and if you're lucky you get a full enemy team of terrible bots. Overall you will lose more due to player misconduct than you gain. Report and follow the rules. > * You will get a match skip (bye) from time to time. These do not count as wins for the emblem but do count as win in the tournament. > > Live to Win and may the Six be with you and your character. > > > Now I can try the same with my second account. :s I imagine the struggle, it was annoying for me being g3/p1. I believe a good part of your wins were against afk teams. At first it was very frustrating cuz i was joining those all welcome teams. Then my experience was very similar to yours, I'd join tournament expecting 1 win. Then i started joining g3 p1 teams i things got a lot better like 2 3 wins every tournament

That's very personal And depends on what build you playing There are 3 well known weaver builds Fire, lightning rod and fresh air I find elementalist in general fun to play But fire is kinda boring ans fresh air super fun But you'd find ppl that will disagree with me class and buildwise So is more about trying a lot of different builds and playstyles to find what you actually have more fun with

Actually so easy to bring balance to thief and mesmer Thief loses 100 vit\sec ehile in stealth Mesmer loses 100 vit per clone\phantasm

> @"Sileeent.5861" said: > The question is, if you remove all bots from sPVP, how many real players are left? I just try to understand it logically somehow. As a programmer, I'm 100% sure that bots can be completely removed from sPVP. But the fact that bots have been in sPVP for years, as if they were welcome guests. I mean, nothing is done against bots in sPVP. So I could really imagine that Anet leaves the bots in, because without them the population would decrease too much, which ultimately leads to longer queues or even to endless queues, and a completely dead game. But the big problem with this theory is that it would then even be likely that the bots could even come from Anet themselves. > > Complot or fact, we'll never know! But the bot problem has been around for how many years without any solution? Normally, these problems should always be in focus of a company as these are guests who consume resources without paying rent and in doing so they usually even make potential paying customers unhappy. From a purely logical point of view, there must be a reason for this permanent problem, and no, ignorance won't be the reason. At some point you get to this conclusion, bots now the pop is even lower are very easy to identify. Number of matches, most of them are scourges, there is a few builds they play, and all bots play like the same 5 builds, axe staff mirage, condi scourge, hammer guardian, hammer warrior. In 2v2s devs would just have to lower their rating to silver and queue up as double scourge, and they would pull at least one of those bots 100% chance and watch they stand still once timer reaches 0

> @"Huskyboy.1053" said: > I don't know if there are all that many bots, a lot of them are just PvE players. I always ask people if they are a bot before I report them no matter how bad they're playing, and I almost always get a sarcastic or sincere response. So frankly I think the issue might be more that PvP is pulling in a boatload of really bad players who are only there for the rewards. The nice thing would be for Anet to nerf rewards for people who lose. I can send a ss of my friendlist on leaderboards, and you will see how many of them have now 1300-1400 games. Then you do your math and see they playing at least 14h/day every single day since season started, which is highly unlikely for human capabilities. Today i got one of those in my stream, it couldnt turn around a leave a corner in the map.

0 buffs since feb patch Obaidian flesh has been nerfed 3 times in a row Even a pve nerf to might generation Right after patch fire weaver dmg was laughable Things have been nerfed across the board, holo nerf was a huge breath of life to weaver, then thief nerf made it really good. There wasn't much weaver action before that. All natural counters are meh or not popular, warrior, mesmers and reapers All that combined with sidenoders being either condi or/and ranged specs made weaver great again. Devs are very quick on their fingers when it comes to nerf weaver So who will be the next side node god.

I like it, they should even double aoe dmg against stealth foes

Only thing they said they are investigating

Fire weaver don't lose to any guardian build i think, you may not kill dh if they are smart. But they will eventually give you node while stealth

I agree but i dont think it can be done When i look to skills nerfs that go throught game modes, like sb pet swap in combat it makes me think that this kinda of adjustment can't be done

> @"Supreme.3164" said: > > @"Megametzler.5729" said: > > > @"Supreme.3164" said: > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > @"Supreme.3164" said: > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > @"Supreme.3164" said: > > > > > > > > @"Yasai.3549" said: > > > > > > > > No they aren't. > > > > > > > > They have had their power level severely neutered, that much is true, but so did most of the Professions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only few builds (not professions, builds) are left largely untouched and are truly thriving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd argue that ranger is truly the only profession I don't see spammed left and right anylonger, I'd say that at best you can reach gold 3 on ranger with good luck on yourside and playing just +1 zerk core hit and run. Not enough sustain for anything else really atm on ranger, they gutted any possibility for a competitive duellist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With all the buffs to mobility, pretty much any class can keep up with a ranger trying to kite away and that was the main source of sustain for ranger with the other being the GS block which has been severely nerfed to uselness, it's the only source of blocking on the class and now the long CD made it that much worst. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really don't see nearly as many rangers as before...actually I see many more eles than rangers now and it's a first, the best PvP build for the class is rated as good for max Gold rank so...I don't think my thread is that wrong > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know man, when Im on ranger I get 3x to 4x the healing I get usually on mesmer, often even get most healing in team. > > > > > > as for ranger block, its still one of the best if not the best in the entire game. You are just used to old block which was so kitten broken it was better then the best defensive skills of other classes, and in fact it was so kitten OP, it was usually better then 2 to 3 other defensive skills combined. > > > > > > Like yes, ranger is not the hot stuff meta OP like other kitten builds going around but its not bad either. Proj hate going around and bunker healer kitten really hurts the ranger RN but it might change any moment. > > > > > > > > > > Well I have said that you can reach gold 3 with the class so yeah...it's playable but definitely not META, in the last couple of months they were like 0 ranger both in NA and EU mats semi and finals that must mean something. And yeah the projectile hate really hurts , I hope next elite will offers a different playstyle > > > > > > > > my ranger is not even 30 days old and im gold 3 while duo - queueing with another friend that also plays class that he doesnt know how to play. > > > > ranger can definitely reach higher ranks, wont be too hard to push past p1/p2 > > > > in the end it will boil down to meta being bad for ranger, from renegade and guards proj hate, inability to stop support warrior from bannering reliably and getting kitten on by random DH trap and DH in general doing better. Cant cleave or stomp right hurts the ranger, why not play dh, throw a spinny sword and get 20k dmg. > > > > > > Ranger is a low skill ceiling class as such it will do good at average and below skill level. Most nerfs were on point...(...) > > > > Apart from mATs, where it struggles in coordinated bursts, and apart from druid: Core ranger is played incredibly often in high plat. Druids too, some soulbeasts with memes as well. > > > > No idea where you got your numbers. I will take statistics for a few days and post them here. > > I never considered ranked as any indication of balance and class distribution, I repeat that ranger is a low skill ceiling class that will do good at average and below skill level and nobody ever said that Platinum is free from average and below skill level. > > I mostly consider MATS and again I never stated even once that the class was unplayable so I don't know why people act like I did. > > Also statistics don't work based on the results of a single individual out of thousand others, it is why MAT represents a better source of information....no room for average skill level there am I right? I think that is not a good way to see things, builds in mATs are broken or borderline broken and the ones that don't lie in thia categories are the ones with very specif capabilities like thieves were. There also a case where a build has big value in ATs but is not that good in a non coordinated environment, like 0 damage bunkers But well, this is only my opinion, mAT is a very specific thing that combining EU and NA 50 players won it last year, and prolly 8 different builds are played at finals

There's a tiny chance we get another big patch, cuz you know, 1 year. If this happens most classes will be changed I dont believe this, cuz all amet resources are on expansion We prolly have some burn dh nerf + rune of trapper nerf

Have you ever played ele?

Yes make it work only on pets