Gibson.4036 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > @"Gibson.4036" said: > > Did a difluorite run tonight around Sandswept Isles. I couldn't believe the number of AFK minion necros standing around in the Asura areas. > > > > Is it considered bad form to train mobs into them until their minions are overwhelmed? Asking for a friend. > > You can try ... but it won't work like it does in other games. You might be surprised. My friend took quite a while to get it to work, apparently minions can even revive their master? I don't necro, but that's what it looked like when the necro went down briefly and popped back up. Eventually, though, it went down for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > I would think that could be considered griefing and against the terms. Be careful. Thanks for the warning, I'll pass it on to my friend. Minionmancers are apparently quite the tanks. It did take an awful lot of time. He probably won't think it worth the effort to keep doing. Don't other games have auto-disconnect if your character doesn't move in a given portion of time? I seem to remember on some MMO or the other getting a popup asking if I was afk, and all I had to do was click it to make it go away for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yggranya.5201 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 > @"Gibson.4036" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > I would think that could be considered griefing and against the terms. Be careful. > > Thanks for the warning, I'll pass it on to my friend. > > Minionmancers are apparently quite the tanks. It did take an awful lot of time. He probably won't think it worth the effort to keep doing. > > Don't other games have auto-disconnect if your character doesn't move in a given portion of time? I seem to remember on some MMO or the other getting a popup asking if I was afk, and all I had to do was click it to make it go away for a while. > > There are easy ways to pass that. Like when you watch netflix with you other screen or something, you only need to move a little or activate an ability every 15-30 min to reset that. The point is, it is so easy to work arount that, it migh as well not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 > @"TheGrimm.5624" said: > No one here should be defending AFK farming, and whether you think you are or not you are if you say AFK farmers are not impacting the game, you are defending AFK farming. So just say that. Its not up to the players to fix, its up to the players to say its an issue. If you are here to counter just by saying it can't be addressed, unless you are an employee of ANet let them come forward and say it can't be fixed. I don't see people saying they aren't impacting the game ... we just don't know how much, so it's ridiculous to see arguments from people claiming AFK farmers is a problem that needs more attention because of how they impact the game. What is currently being done is appropriate for the significance of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laila Lightness.8742 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Like most open world players only use 1 so its not super diffrent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 > @"Gibson.4036" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > I would think that could be considered griefing and against the terms. Be careful. > > Thanks for the warning, I'll pass it on to my friend. > > Minionmancers are apparently quite the tanks. It did take an awful lot of time. He probably won't think it worth the effort to keep doing. > > Don't other games have auto-disconnect if your character doesn't move in a given portion of time? I seem to remember on some MMO or the other getting a popup asking if I was afk, and all I had to do was click it to make it go away for a while. > > Actually, probably did him a favour bringing him mobs as well as the point made about putting your 'friends' account at risk for griefing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomos.7593 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 > @"Laila Lightness.8742" said: > Like most open world players only use 1 so its not super diffrent Hahaha. That made me laugh. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoosh.2718 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 Found a really good way of spotting macro users now. Get the Bouquet of Roses, use skill 4 while on their character. If that character is still attacking with multiple skills without changing weapon to remove the roses, you can guarentee they are macro users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrilino.2706 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 > @"Smoosh.2718" said: > Found a really good way of spotting macro users now. Get the Bouquet of Roses, use skill 4 while on their character. If that character is still attacking with multiple skills without changing weapon to remove the roses, you can guarentee they are macro users. > And how does it guarantee anything ???? Not to mention the madness to get the Bouquet to do what exactly? See what weapons a Standing Farmer is using? If they read a book while Stand Farming, they just smash buttons from time to time, doesn't matter what other people do. You guys should really go back to play the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrilino.2706 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 > @"TheGrimm.5624" said: > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said: > > Man i wish there would be more Standing Farmers. > > We need the TP goods at copper rates so you guys can finally go back and play a RPG MMO > > and not a Stock Market Simulator. > > > > Bot away guys............. flood the market > > And another vote for the subscription model, check. ANet when are we going to sub based price model? This will never ever be a real topic in GW2. Rightfully so. Please play another game if you insist on subscription model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoosh.2718 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 > @"Kurrilino.2706" said: > And how does it guarantee anything ???? > Not to mention the madness to get the Bouquet to do what exactly? > See what weapons a Standing Farmer is using? > If they read a book while Stand Farming, they just smash buttons from time to time, doesn't matter what other people do. > You guys should really go back to play the game If you were a player you'd notice after pressing 1 1 1 3 over and over again (with the same timing each time) that your attacks have not actually been doing anything, you'd also swap weapon to remove this item. You can easily spot a macro user by the rythmic skills they use in the same sequence, with the same timings, with the same intervals. What this item allows you to do, is actually see that player is not even there, it shows that that player is abusing the ToS by using a macro. I will still stand by my statement in the begining, AFK farming, botting, macro farming is a bad image for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakaru.6583 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 > @"TheGrimm.5624" said: > > @"Ayakaru.6583" said: > > AFK farmers are an issue? First I've heard of that > > Any time it discourages a player from playing that they feel the need to bring it to the forums means it's time they didn't spend in game means its an issue to that player posting. i fail to see how a farmer could ever discourage a player from playing? I mean you can literally ignore them and go on with your life as if they never even existed. Doesn't mean i agree with farmers, but i just roll my eyes and continue on my way. They're about at significant as anthill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenedge.9675 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 The market is bad because there is nothing for players to craft anymore. Most stuff is cheaper on the TP or earned with alternative currencies Anet put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 > @"Smoosh.2718" said: > > @"Kurrilino.2706" said: > > And how does it guarantee anything ???? > > Not to mention the madness to get the Bouquet to do what exactly? > > See what weapons a Standing Farmer is using? > > If they read a book while Stand Farming, they just smash buttons from time to time, doesn't matter what other people do. > > You guys should really go back to play the game > > If you were a player you'd notice after pressing 1 1 1 3 over and over again (with the same timing each time) that your attacks have not actually been doing anything, you'd also swap weapon to remove this item. OK that doesn't gaurentee they are AFK farming. But even if you think it does ... you would report that player and move on. There IS already a process to deal with AFK farmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard.8150 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 > @"Ototo.3214" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > @"Ototo.3214" said: > > > Could also make it so pet damage doesn't count for kill credit. If just the pet is attacking, they don't get anything. Wont stop people from making some sort of macro to skill spam automatically but still, would help. > > > > As a ranger main, I completely disagree with this idea. > > And as a ranger main, I still make the suggestion. Make it so if you also contribute, then fine, it counts. But if you're just sitting there afk with your pet as the only thing attacking, then no. As a ranger player that may put my pet on one mob, while I kill another, what's going to happen? It's hilarious to me, as I have yet to find a zone where a "bot" is interfering with my gaming, unlike Aion, for example, where they were literally taking over quest zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrilino.2706 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 > @"Smoosh.2718" said: > I will still stand by my statement in the begining, AFK farming, botting, macro farming is a bad image for the game. And i will still welcome every standing farmer to keep the stock market player in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Hand.7306 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I think many people farming these locations are not AFK. They are running multiple instances of GW2, one of which is being played normally and the other(s) are being looked at sporadically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldofBay.8160 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > @"Ototo.3214" said: > > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > > @"Ototo.3214" said: > > > > Could also make it so pet damage doesn't count for kill credit. If just the pet is attacking, they don't get anything. Wont stop people from making some sort of macro to skill spam automatically but still, would help. > > > > > > As a ranger main, I completely disagree with this idea. > > > > And as a ranger main, I still make the suggestion. Make it so if you also contribute, then fine, it counts. But if you're just sitting there afk with your pet as the only thing attacking, then no. > > As a ranger player that may put my pet on one mob, while I kill another, what's going to happen? It's hilarious to me, as I have yet to find a zone where a "bot" is interfering with my gaming, unlike Aion, for example, where they were literally taking over quest zones. **you** commanding your pet is **you using a skill to attack that enemy**, how that skill works out, how it is displayed, that doesn't matter. **you** used a skill to attack. that is different from you standing still, getting attacked and **your pet helping out**, then you should not get credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selient.6018 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Are the following behavior violated ToS? 1. Spamming 1 with TAB, plus cast 3 wells on ground for hours every day 2. not banned because this player has been doing this for months (I have screen records) 3. not against ToS, no macro use, otherwise this player will be banned 4. not a exploit, all action this player does is legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 > @"Selient.6018" said: > Are the following behavior violated ToS? > > 1. Spamming 1 with TAB, plus cast 3 wells on ground for hours every day > 2. not banned because this player has been doing this for months (I have screen records) > 3. not against ToS, no macro use, otherwise this player will be banned > 4. not a exploit, all action this player does is legit You already know the answer to this. We have told you in the many threads that you created on this topic. Behavior that violates the ToS is Anet's call. As players, our only responsibility and recourse is to report the potential violation and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astyrah.4015 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > You already know the answer to this. We have told you in the many threads that you created on this topic. Behavior that violates the ToS is Anet's call. As players, our only responsibility and recourse is to report the potential violation and move on. he created another thread a couple of hours ago... guess what happened to it? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biermeister.4678 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 A good group of Necro farmers will have a merchant posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortifera.6138 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 How do these “AFK farmers” work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 > @"Astyrah.4015" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > You already know the answer to this. We have told you in the many threads that you created on this topic. Behavior that violates the ToS is Anet's call. As players, our only responsibility and recourse is to report the potential violation and move on. > > he created another thread a couple of hours ago... guess what happened to it? :) Song worry we will see another one in a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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