The Greyhawk.9107

> @"Fenella.2634" said: > > @"Fenom.9457" said: > > > @"Touchme.1097" said: > > > Lyssa is going to be a villain, and this time not as a fallen Goddess like Abaddon or Balthazar but a full power Goddess and no other Gods will protect us > > > > > > Except maybe they will? The gods left because they couldn’t solve the dragon problem but if they’re still watching they’ll see we did it for them.. maybe the other 4 come back? But then they’d have to address their devastated pantheon lmao, they would be lacking 2 gods after we kill lyssa > > Kormir told us that there are currently 6 gods. They had already replaced Balthazar before PoF, they just don't bother to tell us about it. > Replacing a god every now and then doesn't seem to be a huge problem. Well, it kinda IS a huge problem, but one that they will eventually solve. Though it opens up another plot hole, if it was so "easy" to strip Balthazar of his godhood and replace him, why didn't they do this with Abaddon? PoF is such a mess.

> @"Rockin Twilight Sparkle.2615" said: > > @"Fueki.4753" said: > > > @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > > Can somebody care to explain me how Lyssa is part of the current living story? > > She is not part of it. Some people just has a penchant for baseless speculations. > > She left Tyria together with Dwayna, Grenth and Melandru. > > Unless this fact is going to be retconned, She will never play a part in the story. > > > > Her only flimsy connection to the plot is that Balthazar somehow got one of her mirrors (or just a mirror named after her) to disguise himself as Lazarus. > > > > The mirror that he had was enchanted by Lyssa herself > And he cursed every one of the gods except for Lyssa That's not enough to assume that Lyssa's going to be a villain (because that would be just _SO_ original of Anet to do) or somehow already dead.

Mounts are earned in game, mounts skins are for a price. Its a balance, as all things should be. Also, EoD isn't likely to focus on mounts in the first place, mounts were PoF's shtick just as gliders and such were HoT's. EoD needs to have its own deal.

> @"Dawdler.8521" said: > ##Improvements and Updates > * Skyscale no longer grabs onto objects - flying into something instantly kill the player instead. Sounds about right.

Its kinda you.

We get it, full armors with independent pieces are better, but the fact is that Arenanet isn't capable of making more than a couple every year or so. Outfits are a way to at least partially appease the playerbase's desire for more ways to partake in Fashion Wars and also keep the revenue stream going. A lot of games do this, actually.

Depends entirely on whats available. Off the top of my head I remember getting the Desert Kings Throne, at least one outfits whose name escapes me, and I _think_ a weapon. Memories' not great anymore, getting old sucks.

IF they had made them interchangeable almost None of them would have been made.

> @"Senteliks.2360" said: > So the point of this thread is that everyone hates someone (or couple) in the main plot of the game and that we should make developers and writers job easier by requesting to remove them all from plot line and create new crew to pick the hate from where it left off Pretty much, I guess. Can't say I particularly want anyone else to die off, but that sure seems to be the case with everyone else.

> @"Stephen.6312" said: > > @"The Greyhawk.9107" said: > > How would either manage to do this to Lyssa when the Six left Tyria centuries before the latest Dragon rising? > > I genuinely feel that there is something up with the timeline with which we have been presented. This forum hasn't spent enough time investigating the Mouvelian Calendar's idiosyncrasies to be able to articulate details about it that are, presently, largely grasped intuitively. > > Knowledgeable members of the lore community will remember that the Risen Priestess of Lyssa states that her "goddess was mere prey for the dragon". The priestess uses the past tense. She also states that Zaithan "devoured" the gods. So how does that work, given the timeline presented to us? It's tempting, downright easy, to dismiss it all as lies. Those who hear the priestess are divided about her truthfulness. The open-minded are prepared to question whether the priestess is telling the truth. Others are unwilling to even entertain the idea that she might be candid. But what if the priestess *is* telling the truth From a storytelling perspective, this is the only option presented to us that allows for the development of any further storylines. > > I'm not saying that I believe Teerack's theory is accurate enough to be reliable. But it's a good attempt. No one has ever really pursued angles like this before, certainly no one that I know of. Why shouldn't we dismiss what the Priestess said as lies? Zhaitan's minions said a lot of shit, why should we believe this particular one?

How would either manage to do this to Lyssa when the Six left Tyria centuries before the latest Dragon rising?

> @"LSD.4673" said: > Sylvari's the only racial story that's interested me. It's a real shame how these plot threads have been cast aside. It honestly seems like sylvari are done with now. > Not just the two missing firstborns, but what about the rest of the firstborns themselves? > So much wasted potential. The original plan for HoT must have been great. Obviously not if it was so quickly cast aside. Maybe it had good ideas, but failed to create a good narrative with them.

> @"Morvran.8265" said: > It's almost a given that we'll get a GH for EoD. > > Personally I'd love to have 4 choices (Imperial, Shing Jea, Jade Sea, Echovald) but I feel like that's unrealistic. If I had to choose one it'd be a fancy part of Kaineng city with a nice view and some nature. That or Kurzick lands. I hope for an updated version of Isle of Meditation, featuring an actual large primary building (for once), you know, like an actual *Hall* complex with adjacent buildings for the arena and such.

I once managed to create a convincing Doctor Robotnik using a norn engineer, but I seem to have lost the screenshots.

What's being referenced in that LS chapter is what known as "The All". https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_All What's basically being described is that the Elder Dragons are a necessary and vital part of the mechanism of Tyria's very existence. By killing the Elder Dragons we're risking the destruction of Tyria itself, we're currently at the point that if one more dies its game over. Balthazar knew this but didn't give a shit and tried to kill Jormag and Primordus anyway, though as you hopefully already know failed, only managing to take a bit of power from each and then caused both of them to go back into a dormant state (which becomes much more important later).

> @"Teratus.2859" said: > > @"The Greyhawk.9107" said: > > > @"Teratus.2859" said: > > > Dunno why some of you guys want Primordus redeemed, if anything I want him to be exactly what we expect him to be.. a being of pure destruction and evil. > > > We already had this redemption not it's fault thing with Kralkatorrik, no need to do that again specially with Primordus. > > > > > > We've already got Jormag playing the "im not bad really" card while clearly being a bad dragon. > > > For Primordus I want to be dealing with essentially a pure evil, living nuclear bomb who's only agenda is to watch the world burn. > > > That to me makes him far, far more dangerous than any other enemy we've had in Gw2, including the other Elder Dragons and I want to see that represented in the game with us feeling almost completely useless and outclassed compared to him. > > > We came close to something like that with Kralkatorrik but in the end it was just setback after setback. > > > > > > With Primordus they need to go all the way.. like Smaug in the hobbit when he just flies off and destroys lake town while the heros can do nothing but watch the carnage completely helpless to do anything.. I hope we get something like that with Primordus where we see the cost of our failure through the carnage and destruction he wages on the world and the regret that we once spared his life really kicks us in the gut. > > > I want Dragon's Watch to be brought to the absolute brink of giving up and accepting the end of the world due to witnessing the sheer power of Primordus. > > > > Really only one person brought up "Redeeming" Primordus in this thread, and rather randomly at that. I don't think its something anyone else expects from what is quite literally the embodiment of destruction. Even if that somehow ended up being the case I can't imagine the current iteration of Arenanet being able to write that in a way that was believable. > > It's not the first time i've seen the subject raised. *shrugs* Can't say I've seen it anywhere else either.

> @"firedragon.8953" said: > Jotun. Before the dark times. The Eye of the North is/was the grandest jotun citadel, likely built with aid of "others". Citation Needed.

Only if its like Warframe's fishing, with a spear. Otherwise DGAF.

> @"Yggranya.5201" said: > Baby aurene is one of the most disgusting thing i have ever seen. It not the actual appearance (although obviosly not a baby dragon. Eyes got smaller when it grew larger, cause "logic") That's commonly how growth works in real life, the eyes are larger relative to the rest of the head of many animals. In the case of humans, the size of our eyes when we're born are as big as they're going to get as adults, hence whey the look so much larger when we're small. Its not quite to the same degree with reptiles, but most young do still have larger eyes then adults.

> @"AzureShiron.7658" said: > > @"Fueki.4753" said: > > > @"AzureShiron.7658" said: > > > > > > > Because I don't like tengu. > > > > > > have you considered you're boring then ;3c > > > > > > > Have you considered we are bored of the constant begging for more races then? > > Someone took that a bit too close to heart. I was teasing them. Probably no more so than how close you took Fueki's reply, though at least theirs was less personal. Take a look through the search function to see just how many threads repeat the same topic of new races, whether its Tengu or Kodan or even Dwarves. It had become a meme, but now its just tiresome.

> @"Teratus.2859" said: > Dunno why some of you guys want Primordus redeemed, if anything I want him to be exactly what we expect him to be.. a being of pure destruction and evil. > We already had this redemption not it's fault thing with Kralkatorrik, no need to do that again specially with Primordus. > > We've already got Jormag playing the "im not bad really" card while clearly being a bad dragon. > For Primordus I want to be dealing with essentially a pure evil, living nuclear bomb who's only agenda is to watch the world burn. > That to me makes him far, far more dangerous than any other enemy we've had in Gw2, including the other Elder Dragons and I want to see that represented in the game with us feeling almost completely useless and outclassed compared to him. > We came close to something like that with Kralkatorrik but in the end it was just setback after setback. > > With Primordus they need to go all the way.. like Smaug in the hobbit when he just flies off and destroys lake town while the heros can do nothing but watch the carnage completely helpless to do anything.. I hope we get something like that with Primordus where we see the cost of our failure through the carnage and destruction he wages on the world and the regret that we once spared his life really kicks us in the gut. > I want Dragon's Watch to be brought to the absolute brink of giving up and accepting the end of the world due to witnessing the sheer power of Primordus. Really only one person brought up "Redeeming" Primordus in this thread, and rather randomly at that. I don't think its something anyone else expects from what is quite literally the embodiment of destruction. Even if that somehow ended up being the case I can't imagine the current iteration of Arenanet being able to write that in a way that was believable.

First off, I'm inclined to think, until we learn otherwise, that the two factions would try to continue most of their respective cultures in secret. As for Kormir, there hasn't been any post Nightfall lore, including Winds of Change, that make any reference to any new houses. As the houses are noble bloodlines the creation of one fir the purpose of giving Kormir a house to be a patron of is probably pretty complicated. As for Balthazar, unless the Kurzicks got some kind of divine insight they probably still have no idea. Can't say I can comment on how that would effect House Vasburg. Ror one it would kind of depend on how much influence the Six really had on any of the Kurzick Houses in the first place, as quite frankly the Six really kinda suck. They can't seem to do anything right, and instead of trying to be better they instead abandoned Humanity and the Forgotten. Anyway, they probably haven't really effected the status of any of the houses in a long time, if ever at all. But even if they did, Balthazar's fall might not necessarily have had negative repercussion on the Vasburgs, as its currently presumed that there is a replacement for Balthazar, and perhaps said replacement has continued to support that house in whatever manner they Six bother to do. A lot of ifs there, but really it probably all we can manage right now.

> @"Svennis.3852" said: > The ecology of the Charr was a magazine article (I believe) and most of that lore seems to have been abandoned. Bit and pieces of it have been, but hardly most of it.

> @"Tyson.5160" said: > > @"Konig Des Todes.2086" said: > > If we go with norse pronunciation, I _think_ it would be pronounced "b-yora". J's are treated akin to y's in norse, and the b would be said akin to the b in "boy". Best way to see would be if there's spoken dialogue in-game, but I would expect it'd be pronounced "bjora" that way, since ANet devs aren't as focused on non-English pronunciation as [they once were](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Savage_Pride_of_the_Jotun). > > > > > @"Valandil Dragonhart.2371" said: > > > and Jora hadn't yet established her legend; the most influencial thing she did in EotN, was kill her corrupted brother, Svanir. Her legend's strength grew long after GW1 was done. > > > > And Bjora Marches was named such before Jora killed her brother. However, Bjora Marches is where Jora's homestead was located (which is where Jora's Keep was built). So there *is* a curious relation presented despite Jora's lack-of-legend in GW1. > > Jora could have been named after the marches, I suppose. My thoughts as well.

How does this....."discussion"....belong in the lore subforum.....