Dawdler.8521 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 This makes more sense than usual. Edit: Aww now its bad again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Diku.2546" said: > --- > Link To This Post > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/89449/wvg-world-vs-globes > > --- > > To the WvW Community: > > Would you support to keep this thread visible & actively updated? > > *Please offer feedback & don't forget to +1* > > Yours truly, > Diku > > Credibility requires critical insight & time. > > --- > > Please give credit & reward to author if this idea is ever used. > > --- > > TOPIC POST RELEASE SCHEDULE > > --- > > TBA = To Be Announced > > 2019.10.05 - REBOOT WvW - Remove World Linking & Implement Changes to WvW > > 2019.10.12 - REDESIGN WvW - Re-Purpose Server Guesting for WvG & encourage Healthy Competitive Match-Ups > > TBA - NEW GAME MODE & VISION - Create a New Game Mode & Establish a better Vision with World vs Globes > TBA - WvG FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions & Answers about WvG > TBA - LIBRARY - Historic web links related to WvG > TBA - SUB-TOPICS - Sub-Topic discussion web links related to WvG > TBA - BLANK RESERVED > TBA - WvG OVERVIEW - Welcome to World vs Globes > TBA - WvG TOURNAMENTS - Annual & Monthly > TBA - DESIGN A-E > TBA - DESIGN F-H > TBA - DESIGN I > TBA - DESIGN J-K > TBA - DESIGN L-P > TBA - DESIGN Q-U > TBA - DESIGN V-Z > TBA - BLANK RESERVED > TBA - GAME-DYNAMICS-REVENUE > TBA - BLANK RESERVED > TBA - BLANK RESERVED > TBA - BLANK RESERVED > What “credit & reward” do you want the devs to give you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 The devs are making Alliances, Diku. This old stuff isn’t gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimator.3589 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Swagger.1459" said: > The devs are making Alliances, Diku. This old stuff isn’t gonna happen. Sometime in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 That's one way to make a thread seem way more active than it actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said: > That's one way to make a thread seem way more active than it actually is. Shh we're seeing a day long post in the making... It's like performance art. Too bad it's a complete waste of homey's time, but its his weekend to blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acheron.4731 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 All I could read in that was shut down current wvw, reboot servers, re-instate home servers, fix stuff... YES, I agree with all that. Alliances are toast....I like this idea better. Alliances now have a stigma to them due to the inept people working at ANET. This is fresh and clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Is this suppose to be like those week long once a day blog post reveals anet use to do for their quarterly content releases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"LetoII.3782" said: > > @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said: > > That's one way to make a thread seem way more active than it actually is. > > Shh we're seeing a day long post in the making... It's like performance art. > > Too bad it's a complete waste of homey's time, but its his weekend to blow. This could, in fact, turn out to be more epic than all the GW books combined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 but what is a globe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > but what is a globe Alliances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diku.2546 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > but what is a globe > > Alliances --- It's Not Alliances - Let me explain this before folks get the wrong idea. --- World = Your Home Server is allowed to own a Single Unit of Multiple Maps. Globes = Enemy Home Worlds --- World vs Globes --- Viewed from your Home Server the other Enemy Servers can be viewed as Globes that on the inside contain Multiple Maps. You get to weekly pick different Globes to fight against...using a Server Guesting mechanic that's been Re-Purposed for WvW...while you struggle to defend your Home Server's Maps against attacks of Enemy players that decided to pick your Home Server to fight. I'll be explaining this more in detail in a later Major Topic Posting. Yours truly, Diku Credibility requires critical insight & time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > but what is a globe > > Alliances Yeah, definetly not. Alliances makes sense, this doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 > @"Diku.2546" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > but what is a globe > > > > Alliances > > --- > > It's Not Alliances - Let me explain this before folks get the wrong idea. > > --- > > World = Your Home Server is allowed to own a Single Unit of Multiple Maps. > Globes = Enemy Home Worlds > > --- > > World vs Globes > > --- > > Viewed from your Home Server the other Enemy Servers can be viewed as Globes that on the inside contain Multiple Maps. > > You get to weekly pick different Globes to fight against...using a Server Guesting mechanic that's been Re-Purposed for WvW...while you struggle to defend your Home Server's Maps against attacks of Enemy players that decided to pick your Home Server to fight. > > I'll be explaining this more in detail in a later Major Topic Posting. > > Yours truly, > Diku > > Credibility requires critical insight & time. Sounds like alliances with extra steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diku.2546 Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > Sounds like alliances with extra steps. > --- It's not extra steps...It's a completely different Match-Up Model. --- *Alliances* ANet creates New World Servers at the start of a "Season" from a Pool of Guilds & Use existing Fixed 3-Way Match-Up Mechanics. *World vs Globes* Players use a Server Guesting Mechanic to weekly Pick an Enemy Server to "Visit" & Attack as they Create their own Match-Up. Yours truly, Diku Credibility requires critical insight & time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiri.4257 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 i think this dude's been looking for a developer to sponsor his idea for a decade. perhaps you could go mobile and make wvw great again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offair.2563 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 > @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said: > That's one way to make a thread seem way more active than it actually is. Give him some credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 > @"Diku.2546" said: > > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > > Sounds like alliances with extra steps. > > > > --- > > It's not extra steps...It's a completely different Match-Up Model. > > --- > > *Alliances* > ANet creates New World Servers at the start of a "Season" from a Pool of Guilds & Use existing Fixed 3-Way Match-Up Mechanics. > > *World vs Globes* > Players use a Server Guesting Mechanic to weekly Pick an Enemy Server to "Visit" & Attack as they Create their own Match-Up. > > Yours truly, > Diku > > Credibility requires critical insight & time. Hummm I can imagine a lot of players choosing the most emptybserver to blob... or I’m understand it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 > @"Offair.2563" said: > > @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said: > > That's one way to make a thread seem way more active than it actually is. > > Give him some credits. I know right? I once knew a guy who dug a huge game hole in his backyard. It was easily 13-15’ deep, and minimally 20’ x 35’ in dimensions. It was impressive. He likely removed multiple tons of dirt. In the end, he had... a hole. I could give him credit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diku.2546 Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 > @"Aeolus.3615" said: > Snip 8< > Hummm I can imagine a lot of players choosing the most emptybserver to blob... or I’m understand it wrong. > --- You're understanding it wrong. The below is a single line from a "Topic Post" that is scheduled to be posted this Saturday on Oct 12th. REDESIGN WvW - Re-Purpose Server Guesting for WvG & encourage Healthy Competition https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1064948/#Comment_1064948 Edit - 5. Players Earn Rewards ONLY when they raid "globes" that are "Ranked Higher or Equal to" their Home Server Yours truly, Diku Credibility requires critical insight & time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
googel.3278 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 > @"Diku.2546" said: > > @"Aeolus.3615" said: > > Snip 8< > > Hummm I can imagine a lot of players choosing the most emptybserver to blob... or I’m understand it wrong. > > > > --- > > You're understanding it wrong. The below is a single line from a "Topic Post" that is scheduled to be posted this Saturday on Oct 12th. > > REDESIGN WvW - Re-Purpose Server Guesting for WvG & encourage Healthy Competition > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1064948/#Comment_1064948 > > 7. ONLY reward players when they fight against an Enemy Globe that is "Equal or Higher" Ranked than their Home Server > > Yours truly, > Diku > > Credibility requires critical insight & time. reading this gave spiderman a heart attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blockhead Magee.3092 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Its a convoluted mess. I'm not if this suggestion is worse than tournaments or not, but both just never seem to go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diku.2546 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 --- MAJOR TOPIC --- 2 - REDESIGN WvW - Re-Purpose Server Guesting for WvG & encourage Healthy Competition *2019.10.12 - ORIGINAL-POST* --- Player Driven, but Anet Controlled Match-Ups help to encourage Healthy Competition 5 Simple Steps To Redesigning WvW --- Remove the current match-up system, but keep a system for Server Score & Rank Assign each Server a "globe" to Defend - (Single unit of 4 maps owned by the same server) Let players pick any (2) "globes" to weekly raid using a Re-Purposed During the Match-Up players are shown the top (3) highest scoring enemies raiding their Home Server's globe in a random order Players Earn Rewards ONLY when they raid "globes" that are "Ranked Higher or Equal to" their Home Server --- Take Steps to Redesign WvW Into WvG --- Put current WvW game mode into Maintenance - No Changes Allowed Re-Focus Development Team's Direction - See [ New Game Mode & Vision ] Create a Parallel WvG game mode Develop WvG to replace WvW in the steps outlined below Long-term goal is to preserve ALL Server Team Identities & Communities Initially Create 5 Servers for this New WvG game mode to Test & Develop "Proof of Concept" Remove ALL Design Mechanics from the 4 Base maps that WvW uses & Re-Purpose them for WvG Next, Layer back Design Mechanics as needed for these New WvG maps - See [ WvG Overview ] Later Create More WvG Servers to replace ALL existing servers after Confirming "Proof of Concept" New WvG game mode is "slowly" beta tested during "weekend events" where WvW is turned off New WvG game mode eventually swapped in to replace Old WvW Old WvW is then allowed to gracefully fade away --- Being Ranked #1 needs to be earned & will come at a cost with this New Match-Up Design --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 > @"Diku.2546" said: > --- > > MAJOR TOPIC > > --- > > 2 - REDESIGN WvW - Re-Purpose Server Guesting for WvG & encourage Healthy Competition > > *2019.10.12 - ORIGINAL-POST* > > --- > > Player Driven, but Anet Controlled Match-Ups help to encourage Healthy Competition > 5 Simple Steps To Redesigning WvW > > --- > > Remove the current match-up system, but keep a system for Server Score & Rank > Assign each Server a "globe" to Defend - (Single unit of 4 maps owned by the same server) > Let players pick any (2) "globes" to weekly raid using a Re-Purposed > During the Match-Up players are shown the top (3) highest scoring enemies raiding their Home Server's globe in a random order > Players Earn Rewards ONLY when they raid "globes" that are "Ranked Higher or Equal to" their Home Server > > > --- > > Take Steps to Redesign WvW Into WvG > > --- > > Put current WvW game mode into Maintenance - No Changes Allowed > Re-Focus Development Team's Direction - See [ New Game Mode & Vision ] > Create a Parallel WvG game mode > Develop WvG to replace WvW in the steps outlined below > Long-term goal is to preserve ALL Server Team Identities & Communities > Initially Create 5 Servers for this New WvG game mode to Test & Develop "Proof of Concept" > Remove ALL Design Mechanics from the 4 Base maps that WvW uses & Re-Purpose them for WvG > Next, Layer back Design Mechanics as needed for these New WvG maps - See [ WvG Overview ] > Later Create More WvG Servers to replace ALL existing servers after Confirming "Proof of Concept" > New WvG game mode is "slowly" beta tested during "weekend events" where WvW is turned off > New WvG game mode eventually swapped in to replace Old WvW > Old WvW is then allowed to gracefully fade away > > > --- > > Being Ranked #1 needs to be earned & will come at a cost with this New Match-Up Design > > --- > Looks like that would be a far worse population balance mess, nightmare actually, and a huge waste of resources that could go into improving wvw. And how does this new “wvg” RvR mode even compete against a game like Camelot Unchained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diku.2546 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 --- *See - REBOOT WvW - Remove World Linking & Implement Changes to WvW* Calculate an Average Server Rank based on a moving 12 month period Players on Servers Ranked below 3 have their Server Transfer Locked Players on Servers that can transfer find it costs Gems & World Ability Points Top Ranked Servers are CLOSED to Population Transfers - ALL Lower Ranked Servers are allowed and may OPEN *See - REDESIGN WvW - Re-Purpose Server Guesting for WvG & encourage Healthy Competition* Players get to weekly pick ANY (2) Servers to raid Players earn rewards ONLY when they raid Severs that are Higher or Equal Rank to their Home Top Ranked Servers are open to attack from ALL Servers below & it's Encouraged to attack Higher or Equal Targets --- *TRANSLATION OF THE ABOVE* --- Yes, it's impossible to Balance Population. Don't even bother trying to Balance Population. However, we CAN use the natural Population In-Balance in a positive way... Make the often Over stacked Server that's #1 Ranked WvW Server to be the Target of everybody else that's ranked below them. Cut off their Population Transfer & Only Reward players when they attack higher or equal targets. --- Did you not see the bottom of the Post for REDESIGN WvW - Re-Purpose Server Guesting for WvG & encourage Healthy Competition? [ Being Ranked #1 needs to be earned & will come at a cost with this New Match-Up Design ] We only see what we want to see...so let's just continue to agree to disagree. --- Yours truly, Diku Credibility requires critical insight & time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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