Balsa.3951 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Getting bored with gathering my home instance how about a 400 gem item Butler who gather for me. Anet can make some sweet money by selling Butler skins Skritt/ Ogre/ Golems and and and .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Sounds awfully lot like a slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Love it. Love it completely. As long we got plenty of inane chatter from the butler as they went around (with possibly some reactionary ones from us), this would be hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuchslein.8639 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 If there were something like that, I would actually start buying nodes and all that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Would you be able to use this butler in other peoples home instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Would you be able to slot Glyphs in their harvesting tool slots? Is this a walk into instance talk to butler standing right next to entrance, press F to collect everything sort of thing, or do I have to watch them run around for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Yeah, nothing adverse could happen to the economy from this suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsa.3951 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > Yeah, nothing adverse could happen to the economy from this suggestion. Well it's in a way a gold sink, the home instance gather value is nothing u can not get in the open world anyway. (or in ur home instance urself, it's a pure QOL item) It affects the economy the same as endless gathering tools do already. But curious to know ur opinion what u mean it will disturb the economy, I admit I didn't think that much through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 And have them interact with the cats, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 > @"Balsa.3951" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > Yeah, nothing adverse could happen to the economy from this suggestion. > > Well it's in a way a gold sink, the home instance gather value is nothing u can not get in the open world anyway. Not really a gold sink if you need only purchase it once. > It affects the economy the same as endless gathering tools do already. > But curious to know ur opinion what u mean it will disturb the economy, I admit I didn't think that much through. Endless gathering tools may have had an impact on the economy, but players still have to actively go to a node and farm it. Many players may not take the opportunity to do this each and every time that they log on. Your proposal would basically give mats to players for "free" without any effort. IMO, this would add more mats to the TP as people cash them in for gold which would devalue the mats. Converting gold->gems would then affect the gem prices (as well as de-incetivize players from purchasing gems with real cash), much like what was seen during the heyday of the Istan farm. Gems were a lot cheaper then than they are now (almost by half!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorudo.9054 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"Balsa.3951" said: > > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > Yeah, nothing adverse could happen to the economy from this suggestion. > > > > Well it's in a way a gold sink, the home instance gather value is nothing u can not get in the open world anyway. > Not really a gold sink if you need only purchase it once. > > > It affects the economy the same as endless gathering tools do already. > > But curious to know ur opinion what u mean it will disturb the economy, I admit I didn't think that much through. > Endless gathering tools may have had an impact on the economy, but players still have to actively go to a node and farm it. Many players may not take the opportunity to do this each and every time that they log on. Your proposal would basically give mats to players for "free" without any effort. IMO, this would add more mats to the TP as people cash them in for gold which would devalue the mats. Converting gold->gems would then affect the gem prices (as well as de-incetivize players from purchasing gems with real cash), much like what was seen during the heyday of the Istan farm. Gems were a lot cheaper then than they are now (almost by half!). > i only see a good thing, this makes stuff less overpriced and actual casuals can play normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"Balsa.3951" said: > > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > Yeah, nothing adverse could happen to the economy from this suggestion. > > > > Well it's in a way a gold sink, the home instance gather value is nothing u can not get in the open world anyway. > Not really a gold sink if you need only purchase it once. > > > It affects the economy the same as endless gathering tools do already. > > But curious to know ur opinion what u mean it will disturb the economy, I admit I didn't think that much through. > Endless gathering tools may have had an impact on the economy, but players still have to actively go to a node and farm it. Many players may not take the opportunity to do this each and every time that they log on. Your proposal would basically give mats to players for "free" without any effort. IMO, this would add more mats to the TP as people cash them in for gold which would devalue the mats. Converting gold->gems would then affect the gem prices (as well as de-incetivize players from purchasing gems with real cash), much like what was seen during the heyday of the Istan farm. Gems were a lot cheaper then than they are now (almost by half!). I think it depends on how exactly it works. The way I imagine it working the only difference between now and using the butler is you'd go to your home instance, locate the butler and they'd give you all the items harvested from the nodes that day in one go, rather than you having to go around each node. In that case I think the impact on the economy would be minimal because players wouldn't get anything they don't get now. They'd still have to buy the nodes, log in and go to the home instance, it just cuts a few minutes off the process. It would be less effort, but not by much. On the other hand if it was something like you get the mats mailed to you each day even if you don't log in I think that would have too many downsides, not just the impact on the economy but the fact that it removes an incentive to log into the game. I'm sure I'm not the only one who logs in intending to just do something quick like harvest home instance nodes or do the dailies and then gets drawn into doing a bunch of other stuff, so it could lead to less activity in the game as well. > @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said: > Would you be able to slot Glyphs in their harvesting tool slots? Is this a walk into instance talk to butler standing right next to entrance, press F to collect everything sort of thing, or do I have to watch them run around for me? That's an interesting point. I imagine it would be difficult to make it work with the glyphs on gathering tools (especially since players might have more than 1 set of tools, how would it know which ones to use?) but maybe that trade-off could be used to minimise the concerns some players have raised? If you have enough time (and tools with glyphs or built-in bonuses) it's better to gather everything manually so you get the extra stuff from the glyphs. But if you're rushed or just don't feel like doing it today you accept losing those bonuses in return for the convinience of faster gathering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsa.3951 Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"Balsa.3951" said: > > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > Yeah, nothing adverse could happen to the economy from this suggestion. > > > > Well it's in a way a gold sink, the home instance gather value is nothing u can not get in the open world anyway. > Not really a gold sink if you need only purchase it once. > > > It affects the economy the same as endless gathering tools do already. > > But curious to know ur opinion what u mean it will disturb the economy, I admit I didn't think that much through. > Endless gathering tools may have had an impact on the economy, but players still have to actively go to a node and farm it. Many players may not take the opportunity to do this each and every time that they log on. Your proposal would basically give mats to players for "free" without any effort. IMO, this would add more mats to the TP as people cash them in for gold which would devalue the mats. Converting gold->gems would then affect the gem prices (as well as de-incetivize players from purchasing gems with real cash), much like what was seen during the heyday of the Istan farm. Gems were a lot cheaper then than they are now (almost by half!). > **Good points.** I can't really say if is will impact the economy, IMHO Anet prefer to sell u items in the gem store over having the mats prices devalued by an unknown %. > @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said: > Would you be able to slot Glyphs in their harvesting tool slots? Is this a walk into instance talk to butler standing right next to entrance, press F to collect everything sort of thing, or do I have to watch them run around for me? I was thinking the same, **I go into more detail how I imagine the Butler works.** The Butler is an NPC comes with the ability to be equipped with glyphs, those glyphs can be removed again by the player or exchanged for other ones. (Glyphs need be bought separate from the Butler) The Butler can be transmuted with skins from the gemshop. For example u buy a Skritt Butler from the Gem shop, later u get bored with that look u can buy another skin like a Golem Butler (Ghost, Bunny, Ecto Ooze... imagination is endless) that way the Butler stays a gold sink like mounts do. **Functionality** The Butler is a little like an SIMs NPC he has his own personality and animations. When u just visit the home instance he will walk around doing stuff like gathering or sweeping the ground. He will have some dialogues he randomly talks like NPCs in the open world do (funny ones is the hope and enough diversity that it needs a while before u heard all he has to say) **How to Gather mats** After you arrived your home instance u get a special action key (Butler Bell), after pressing this one the Butler will run to u, it can be a few seconds till he reaches u depending on where in the home instance he is at that moment. He then has a welcome sentence like (Welcome Home Master, Dialogue will be different with each different Butler skin) U than interact with the Butler select collect mats to get ur mats. This I imagine will give the home instance some flavor and not just be a thing must do. It also will be a nice addition when player housing arrives and people will be busy with many other things in their H.I. Than gathering mats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 > @"Balsa.3951" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > @"Balsa.3951" said: > > > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > > Yeah, nothing adverse could happen to the economy from this suggestion. > > > > > > Well it's in a way a gold sink, the home instance gather value is nothing u can not get in the open world anyway. > > Not really a gold sink if you need only purchase it once. > > > > > It affects the economy the same as endless gathering tools do already. > > > But curious to know ur opinion what u mean it will disturb the economy, I admit I didn't think that much through. > > Endless gathering tools may have had an impact on the economy, but players still have to actively go to a node and farm it. Many players may not take the opportunity to do this each and every time that they log on. Your proposal would basically give mats to players for "free" without any effort. IMO, this would add more mats to the TP as people cash them in for gold which would devalue the mats. Converting gold->gems would then affect the gem prices (as well as de-incetivize players from purchasing gems with real cash), much like what was seen during the heyday of the Istan farm. Gems were a lot cheaper then than they are now (almost by half!). > > > > **Good points.** > I can't really say if is will impact the economy, IMHO Anet prefer to sell u items in the gem store over having the mats prices devalued by an unknown %. > > > > > @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said: > > Would you be able to slot Glyphs in their harvesting tool slots? Is this a walk into instance talk to butler standing right next to entrance, press F to collect everything sort of thing, or do I have to watch them run around for me? > > I was thinking the same, > > **I go into more detail how I imagine the Butler works.** > > The Butler is an NPC comes with the ability to be equipped with glyphs, those glyphs can be removed again by the player or exchanged for other ones. (Glyphs need be bought separate from the Butler) > > The Butler can be transmuted with skins from the gemshop. > > For example u buy a Skritt Butler from the Gem shop, later u get bored with that look u can buy another skin like a Golem Butler (Ghost, Bunny, Ecto Ooze... imagination is endless) that way the Butler stays a gold sink like mounts do. > > **Functionality** > The Butler is a little like an SIMs NPC he has his own personality and animations. When u just visit the home instance he will walk around doing stuff like gathering or sweeping the ground. He will have some dialogues he randomly talks like NPCs in the open world do (funny ones is the hope and enough diversity that it needs a while before u heard all he has to say) > > **How to Gather mats** > After you arrived your home instance u get a special action key (Butler Bell), after pressing this one the Butler will run to u, it can be a few seconds till he reaches u depending on where in the home instance he is at that moment. He then has a welcome sentence like (Welcome Home Master, Dialogue will be different with each different Butler skin) U than interact with the Butler select collect mats to get ur mats. > > > This I imagine will give the home instance some flavor and not just be a thing must do. It also will be a nice addition when player housing arrives and people will be busy with many other things in their H.I. Than gathering mats. > > > > You mean **if** player housing arrives right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFishBob.6518 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"Balsa.3951" said: > > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > Yeah, nothing adverse could happen to the economy from this suggestion. > > > > Well it's in a way a gold sink, the home instance gather value is nothing u can not get in the open world anyway. > Not really a gold sink if you need only purchase it once. > How about we pay the butler some coin every day we use their service? Like the salvage-o-matics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSilverZero.5673 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I love this post. but all way for my friends wants dogs, because cats is lot of them inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvar.7953 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 This would probably lead to some sales for Anet. People buying the butler (I would), and then people buying the home instance nodes because gathering would be so quick and simple. So it would have some impact on the economy, but I doubt it would be significant. GW2 does a pretty good job on the economy with the trading post, so even if more of some materials were produced, it may also result in more people buying them for whatever they need. And a fair amount of the materials (LS ones) are account bound anyways. For glyphs, could be a something in the interface where you select what glyphs/tools you want your butler to use. May for simplicity, these have to be permanent tools (more sales there), if the user doesn't have permanent tools, then only basic gathering is used (you can't buy the limited used special tools and have the butler use them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 > @"phokus.8934" said: > Sounds awfully lot like a slave. If the pact commander asked *you* to gather rocks and plants for him, would *you* tell him no? Didn’t think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsakhi.8124 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 > @"Fenom.9457" said: > > @"phokus.8934" said: > > Sounds awfully lot like a slave. > > > If the pact commander asked *you* to gather rocks and plants for him, would *you* tell him no? Didn’t think so If he'd give me a hug and a head pet, I would totally mine rocks and plants. I love to garden and also like to destroy things. <3 (and if he gives me spicy food and sweets, that's a plus) On topic! I would actually like that. Especially if I can have a Skritt and I can pay it with shinies ~~junk~~ and food. And booze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greyhawk.9107 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Only if you have to pay him a salary and he constantly gives you backhanded insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokh.2695 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > Love it. Love it completely. As long we got plenty of inane chatter from the butler as they went around (with possibly some reactionary ones from us), this would be hilarious > > When would you listen to said chatter? In the three seconds it takes you to you load into your home, click "gather all" then leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauderi.8706 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I'd use this, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra.6509 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Can I send him to my guildmates home instances ??? They have much more nods than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altion.9576 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I want a cute Charr maiden for my home instance, and Yes, you know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 > @"lokh.2695" said: > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > Love it. Love it completely. As long we got plenty of inane chatter from the butler as they went around (with possibly some reactionary ones from us), this would be hilarious > > > > > > When would you listen to said chatter? In the three seconds it takes you to you load into your home, click "gather all" then leave? I think the idea here is that the butler would take as long time as the average player to gather instance, so for some people it would be faster to gather yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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